Muller Dynamo

[mondrasek]

The RomeroUK Muller setup is a realization of the concept analyzed by Claus W. Turtur in the paper found here (thanks to @chalamdad):  http://philica.com/display_article.php?article_id=219  In this paper you will find the below picture in section 5.  Turtur was analyzing different embodiments of a device that would be able to convert ZPE into usable electricity.  This particular theoretical device was designed to pulse the inductance of the coil.  The method to do so was by oscillating a magnet within the coil.  Turtur's analysis revealed this concept to be impractical since simulations showed that the magnet would have to be of near zero mass in order to work at the required frequencies to "phase lock" and become a ZPE converter, so he abandoned it.  His next idea appeared to be the most realizable and is what he settled on as a good test build subject.

But the RomeroUK Muller device is actually doing the same thing that is shown below and that Turtur abandoned.  It it pulsing the inductance of the coil.  It is doing so by passing the rotor magnets by the ferrite cores.  Each time a magnet swings by the ferrite it is changing the inductance in an oscillatory fashion just like Turtur believes is necessary for his ZPE converter.

M.

[xenomorphlabs]

The RomeroUK Muller setup is a realization of the concept analyzed by Claus W. Turtur in the paper found here (thanks to @chalamdad):  http://philica.com/display_article.php?article_id=219  In this paper you will find the below picture in section 5.  Turtur was analyzing different embodiments of a device that would be able to convert ZPE into usable electricity.  This particular theoretical device was designed to pulse the inductance of the coil.  The method to do so was by oscillating a magnet within the coil.  Turtur's analysis revealed this concept to be impractical since simulations showed that the magnet would have to be of near zero mass in order to work at the required frequencies to "phase lock" and become a ZPE converter, so he abandoned it.  His next idea appeared to be the most realizable and is what he settled on as a good test build subject.

But the RomeroUK Muller device is actually doing the same thing that is shown below and that Turtur abandoned.  It it pulsing the inductance of the coil.  It is doing so by passing the rotor magnets by the ferrite cores.  Each time a magnet swings by the ferrite it is changing the inductance in an oscillatory fashion just like Turtur believes is necessary for his ZPE converter.

M.

Hmm, this inductance change happens in every pulse motor.
Basically whenever you bring a magnet close to a coil with a core.
So the sheer fact of the inductance change alone is certainly not the whole
deal for ZPE. Otherwise any replicator would see OU by simply doing that or maybe i didn't get your complete point, then i kindly ask you to elaborate a bit further.
Keep it up

[yfree]

You are absolutely right, Mondrasek. Please also read
Mandelstam, L.I.; and N.D. Papaleksi., "On the parametric excitation of electric oscillations," Zhurnal Teknicheskoy Fiziki, 4(1), 1934, p. 5-29;  available from this website: http://www.cheniere.org/misc/moscowuniv.htm. Everything is explained there, both theoretically and experimentally. You will also need to add a condition that the number of coil pairs (with biasing magnets) equal the number of rotating magnets. But then, it is neither the RomeroUK nor Muller device.
All the best,

yfree

[mondrasek]

Hmm, this inductance change happens in every pulse motor.
Basically whenever you bring a magnet close to a coil with a core.
So the sheer fact of the inductance change alone is certainly not the whole
deal for ZPE. Otherwise any replicator would see OU by simply doing that or maybe i didn't get your complete point, then i kindly ask you to elaborate a bit further.
Keep it up

Off the top of my head I would think it has something to do with frequency.  As I understand (slightly) Turtur's analysis, the conditions for tapping into ZPE require that we establish a "phase lock" between our system and the frequencies of the ZPE (way out on a limb here).  So the "effect" can only be seen under the correct conditions of (for the RomeroUK setup) specific range values of inherent capacitance, load resistance, and induced inductance value oscillation (due to rotor frequency, gap, core material, number of winds, etc.).

I am testing now with a larger resistance and sweeping the RPM with dirve motor input voltage control but have yet to see any "phase lock" condition.  So the resistance increase may have knocked my system too far away from the conditions necessary to establish the phase lock condition.

I was considering the name of this device a bit while mowing the lawn earlier.  I thought that ZPEC for Zero Point Energy Converter was apropos.  It is easy to say ( z-peck) and easy to type as an acronym.  It also removes reference to Muller and can hopefully ease the pressure on Bill's daughter.  R-ZPEC for the nod to Romero may be appropriate too.

[plengo]

We have to think a little bit out of the box for sure. In this picture I am showing the voltage output (red) and current (yellow) of one pair-coil. I have only two pair coil running.

They all go through a FWBR and a big cap on the DC side. One little 100ma / 12v lamp as load. Leds are NOT GOOD loads, they totally change the dynamics.

I am getting in very little rotation about 60ma (don't care about the voltage) output on the lamp. Noticed that there is a point where the voltage on that coil-pair is not in phase at all with the current on the output. The other coil-pair generator is not shown and I will also soon make more pictures.

The point being that if I can get one coil-pair generator totally out of phase of the load it is indeed possible to get this to run OU. I have been only playing with one and two pair coil generator because it is way too difficult to tune with just two, imagine with 19 more?!!!!


Also notice those strange spikes in voltage. I am using a few bias magnets BUT they are not over the coils but in locations on the motor where I have the best output. The dynamics are simply amazing. Faster speeds are not necessarily the best at all. Also when I am getting close to a good output the motor start sounding really like it will fall apart. It is a nasty loud noise of the magnets fighting each other. All vibrate strongly. Very interesting!

Fausto.