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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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T-1000

Quote from: MileHigh on July 15, 2012, 09:52:04 AM
T-1000:

The formulas exist and there is no magic frequency that allows you to avoid the Lenz force.

Ok so what is the formula when Lenz force happens inside of coil when you have driving frequency and coil inductance?
For example, what is Lenz t=dt? is when you have f=1kHz frequency and L=100H inductance? The coil would be shorted for this case.

MileHigh

T-1000:

The way you posed the question, it's not logical so there is no answer.   The real example you want to look at is when you move a magnet past a coil and the wires of the coil are connected to a resistor.  When the magnet moves past the coil, the coil generates EMF, and that causes power to be burnt off in the resistor.  As power is being burnt off in the resistor, current is flowing through the coil, and that current flowing through the coil causes a Lenz drag on the moving magnet.

MileHigh

T-1000

Quote from: MileHigh on July 15, 2012, 10:36:16 AM
T-1000:

The way you posed the question, it's not logical so there is no answer.   The real example you want to look at is when you move a magnet past a coil and the wires of the coil are connected to a resistor.

To understand my question more easily lets assume your example and when you got a magnet passing generator coil 1000 times per second. The generator coil would be high voltage coil with internal inductance of 100 Henries.

My question is: What is time difference between magnet approaching coil and reactive Lenz force happening on coil to create drag on magnet? Would be magnet already approached coil or still on move towards coil on that moment? This is 1 million dollar question :)

P.S> Thane and others practically showed that effect by experiments but never related time of Lenz force happening with generator coil inductance and frequency for calculations...

MileHigh

T-1000:

QuoteMy question is: What is time difference between magnet approaching coil and reactive Lenz force happening on coil to create drag on magnet? Would be magnet already approached coil or still on move towards coil on that moment? This is 1 million dollar question

The Lenz force reaction happens at the speed of light.  So the time difference is essentially zero.

MileHigh

T-1000

Quote from: MileHigh on July 15, 2012, 10:55:04 AM
T-1000:

The Lenz force reaction happens at the speed of light.  So the time difference is essentially zero.

MileHigh

That is incorrect.

Please see very closely http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B750RHM9hTc when frequency is increased and what happened to motor consuming power.