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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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dean_mcgowan

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February 03, 2008, 01:16:25 PM
Quote from: JFK on February 03, 2008, 11:44:38 AM
@ Dean - The fact of the matter is that Al denied overunity. 
Nevertheless he was barraged with claims that he did claim overunity and he was claimed to be a fraud and continues to be by persons like yourself.

Others with resources have attempted a replication and have discovered a strange magnetic anomoly. That alone should be investigated on it's own merits.

You are not helping, and indeed are hindering the efforts of these people investigating this phenomon with the attitude portrayed in your posts.

Why ?

You seem to have your own personal dialogue ignoring what ever I say.
I am just saying that you cannot replicate without exact specifications.
Now why he wont give them is up to everyone to decide for themselves.
Still makes replication a futile effort IMHO.
And I am sure my opinion is not hampering anyone who is determined enough
and good on them for making their own fun.
I would like to replicate the real thing, hence I wait.

Cheers,

Dean

Bruce_TPU

#2121
February 03, 2008, 01:43:18 PM
Quote from: dean_mcgowan on February 03, 2008, 01:16:25 PM
Quote from: JFK on February 03, 2008, 11:44:38 AM
@ Dean - The fact of the matter is that Al denied overunity. 
Nevertheless he was barraged with claims that he did claim overunity and he was claimed to be a fraud and continues to be by persons like yourself.

Others with resources have attempted a replication and have discovered a strange magnetic anomoly. That alone should be investigated on it's own merits.

You are not helping, and indeed are hindering the efforts of these people investigating this phenomon with the attitude portrayed in your posts.

Why ?

You seem to have your own personal dialogue ignoring what ever I say.
I am just saying that you cannot replicate without exact specifications.
Now why he wont give them is up to everyone to decide for themselves.
Still makes replication a futile effort IMHO.
And I am sure my opinion is not hampering anyone who is determined enough
and good on them for making their own fun.
I would like to replicate the real thing, hence I wait.

Cheers,

Dean



The only "exact specifications" we are missing is the actual gauss measurement of each magnet, and the exact bearing model number and whether it had a lubricant or if this was removed.

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

starcruiser

#2122
February 03, 2008, 01:46:57 PM
I am sorry about this but I must say something...

@Dean,

You seem to weigh in on the various projects around here and always in a negative sense. It seems to me you want people to fail, or if they ignore you, you seem to try and start arguments to derail the projects. I have been around here for a while and have seen you do this many times.

You need to leave people alone to do their thing, this is how progress is made, trial and error. Maybe you are MIB, who knows, who cares. Like my mom always said, If you do not have anything nice to say do not say anything.
Regards,

Carl

FunkyJive

#2123
February 03, 2008, 02:15:02 PM
I can't honestly say that I've studied enough posts to draw conclusions about the many individuals concerned, though with regard to the magnet motor I believe I understand Dean's take.

Unless the specifications are sufficently precise then it's not possible to ascertain the validity of the design by replication alone, as there would always be scope for variation and misinterpretation. However, I would agree that attempting to replicate the claimed working design as closely as possible affords the best chance of success - albeit with some tweaking which would almost be inevitable, even if all the specs were to-hand.

I believe that the MIB's (and they undoubtedly scour and post to websites such as this) would adopt a more intelligent, outwardly-sincere approach. If I were such an individual, I would first create something very convincing (though fake) to incite lots of fruitless effort to encourage disenchantment, and then walk away once the idea had gained its own momentum. This would pay far greater dividends amongst the many would-be experimenters, than by simply debunking one specific idea or another, and as a move to competitively steer others away from ideas with promise - leading them down a long and tortuous blind alley.

However, this design appears to hold considerable promise from the many results to-date - so I believe it's a far safer bet  ;D

Onwards !!!


FunkyJive

"Invention has its value, but discovery is priceless"

"Faith from the wealth of negative speculation cannot deny faith from the sparks of promising experimentation"

"A quest of impossible odds is not driven by expectations of what is achievable, but by the certainty of what is not"

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dean_mcgowan

#2124
February 03, 2008, 02:51:07 PM
Quote from: starcruiser on February 03, 2008, 01:46:57 PM
I am sorry about this but I must say something...

@Dean,

You seem to weigh in on the various projects around here and always in a negative sense. It seems to me you want people to fail, or if they ignore you, you seem to try and start arguments to derail the projects. I have been around here for a while and have seen you do this many times.

You need to leave people alone to do their thing, this is how progress is made, trial and error. Maybe you are MIB, who knows, who cares. Like my mom always said, If you do not have anything nice to say do not say anything.


I agree i am quite negative. But if you read my posts and read the final outcomes of the projects that I have commented on you will find that i am quite often correct in my evaluations and the consensus often arrives there quite a few posts later. I am sure with or without my input this forum would survive, however I enjoy doing it and I am most time polite. And I try to refrain from ad hominid  remarks which I can not always say for my protagonists.

And I am sure your mother is a lovely lady as was mine .. so lets just leave them out of this topic.

PS. Take for instance my quotes regarding calorimtry and the stiffler circuit for which I was poo hoo'd by just about all and the master himself and behold what is he doing at this very moment. Nuff Said

Cheers,

Dean
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