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notes from Linden, Switzerland

Started by doyouknowyourdead, January 09, 2008, 03:10:52 PM

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Steven Dufresne

Hi Stefan,
Quote from: hartiberlin on February 13, 2008, 09:47:36 PM
In:
http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa/misc/TESTA9.JPG
you can also see, that these "Tasters-Abnehmer" ( capacitive charge puller stator collector square-plates)
directly connect to these tall small diameter Lyden jars.

So you can see, that the High voltage pulses are directly pulsed from these capacitive collector
plates to these mountain crystall containing lyden jars, where they will
excite the radioactive Beta-decay and charge up these Leyden jars much more
than alone from the capacitive coupling.
Actually, http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa/misc/test.jpg further supports that as the tall small diameter jars there also seem to have crystal-looking material cylinders in their center.
Quote from: hartiberlin on February 13, 2008, 09:47:36 PM
At least it must be clear, that such small machines, with so low RPM
rotating discs could never produce 300 Watts to 3KWatts just on
magnetic and electric interaction forces...
It can only be radioactive Beta decay, that is coming
out as this high power from these machines.
Well... I can hope for ZPE too.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org
He who smiles at lofty schemes, stems the tied of broken dreams. - Roger Hodgson

EMdevices

Thanks for all the info guys.  The machine is certainly complex at face value,  however,  if approched with a theory in mind, it can seem quite familiar with a few modifications.

The principle experiment is certainly not based on exotic crystals from what I read.  It has to do with friciton of air and some sort of triboelectric phenomena.   I never saw those early models before, interesting.

I do want to illustrate something that will shed some light on how the energy can be increased.   The Whimhurst machine operates in a balanced way, I will draw up a picture later.   That concept of balanced means a lot.   Electrostatic INDUCTION playes a big part.  There was a time when I had very wild ideas about how to increase energy with electrostatics and moving plates around etc..  I even built a machine after a patent very simular.

EM

hartiberlin

Hi EM,
even the smallest Testatika machines output about 270 Volts at around 1 amps.
You would not get this from so slow running discs with just the forces of electrostatics
or permanent magnet interactions...

I have read somewhere on the net about a guy,
that used americum pills from smoke detector devices and put them
into a selfmade capacitor and every time he energized the capacitor
with a high Voltage RF burst, the americum pills released huge
radioactive decay energy bursts and charged up the capacitor some more...

Also some other guy posted, that he used burned ash from radioactive coleman
light bulb gaze and could also energize it with magnetic RF bursts,
so he could trigger radioactive decay with a coil which was wound around this material
and was pulsed with RadioFrequency magnetfield bursts...

So all in all I think the Testatika uses the same principle in exciting the
radioactive decay in the mountain crystals inside the Leyden Jars.

This is also the most logical explanation for so much
power from so small devices using so slow RPM rotations.

The Wimhursts machines are only there to
produce the High Voltage electrostatic Voltages to excite the
crystals via corona discharge RF bursts.

It could have been done also by a solid state TV flyback transformer
circuit only.

The same is true with the Morray device.
It also worked on excited radioactive decay.

Morray just used a strong local radio transmitter and
Resonance in his first LC tank circuit to get the required
RF bursts to excite his swedish stone radioactive diode crystals.

He then used several stages in series as "passive amplifiers" just powered
by the beta decay electron generation of the swedish stone material
to buildup more power up into the KWatts range.
But all the power came from the radioactive beta decay of his swedish stone
diodes.

It is probably a very simple process, but you have to know the
right lightly radioactive materials which you can "excite" via high Voltage
RF bursts..

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

Steven Dufresne

Stefan,
I have thought of the americium trick and have even collected and extracted 5 of the capacitors from within the smoke detectors that contain the pills. However, I'm too afraid to try it. The level or gamma and alpha rays from americium without the RF is pretty safe to work with, only a piece of paper is needed to block it, but once you start increasing its radioactivity with RF, how much shielding do you use?
Steven "scaredy cat" D.
http://rimstar.org
He who smiles at lofty schemes, stems the tied of broken dreams. - Roger Hodgson

hartiberlin

Quote from: Steven Dufresne on February 15, 2008, 12:46:17 PM
Stefan,
I have thought of the americium trick and have even collected and extracted 5 of the capacitors from within the smoke detectors that contain the pills. However, I'm too afraid to try it. The level or gamma and alpha rays from americium without the RF is pretty safe to work with, only a piece of paper is needed to block it, but once you start increasing its radioactivity with RF, how much shielding do you use?
Steven "scaredy cat" D.
http://rimstar.org

Exactly that is my concern...
I still have a smoke detector lying on my balcony, so it stays away from my bedroom.
We really have to get a good radioactive detector first,
if you want to try radioactive experiments...
Maybe someone can comment on a brand which is not too expensive
and can be bought on cheaply on Ebay and can detect all sorts
of radiation ?
Also Bruce from nuenergy.org said, that natural stones which are
lightly radioactive are not so dangerous than chemically treated materials to enhance
the radioactivity like americum pills in smoke detectors...
but I don?t know, if this is right.

You can also buy pretty hot radioactive mine stones on the net
which are normally only for stone collectors.

Also you could try to put these stones between
2 graphite rods sparkgap, so then you can excite them even
more via the high voltage arc discharge.
Be careful with this, as the smoke could also be radioactive...
don?t breath any of it !
Put a big coil and a 12 Volt battery and 2 graphite rods in series
and put a tiny piece of the radioactive stonedirectly into the arc at
the graphite rods sparkgap.

This is also a way to see on the scope at a shunt,
if there are any negative back current pulses into the battery
to test for other materials.
If you can get big backcurrent pulses during the arcing,
you have found a material that decays wellinto Beta decay
and thus works as an electron dontator that charges up your battery
with these huge back current pulses...

In some Newman machines this is also the case,if you have the
right graphite material that has lightly radioactive carbon isotopes
and which are excited to decay into Beta radiation during the sparks..


Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum