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@Thaelin

Thanks for both posts.

Pulsing the primary brought the voltage up to 31.15 and it increased slowly by .01 increments.

Now I tried pulsing the secondary, just switching the primary and secondary connections, and voltage shot up to 90 volts rather quickly in .1 volts increments. I stopped it a 90 volts for now because my capacitor is 75 vdc rated.

While operating the pulses, I put the meter on AC and there is nothing. Just a .004 volts so there is no AC while operating.

I have left the other N/O terminal of the relay open because I noticed that the relay pulsing is so fast that the relay Common does not have "time" to contact it, so basically, if pulsing these relay, the N/O terminals are useless. That's good because if it is useless for me, it must be useless for Erfinders' also, and this just canceled 4 potential variables from the equation. 

@armagdn03

Thanks for your input. The diagram I show above is doing the relay pulsing. I have noticed placing a small neo near the relay will alter the pulsing rate.

[armagdn03]

@Thaelin

Thanks for both posts.

Pulsing the primary brought the voltage up to 31.15 and it increased slowly by .01 increments.

Now I tried pulsing the secondary, just switching the primary and secondary connections, and voltage shot up to 90 volts rather quickly in .1 volts increments. I stopped it a 90 volts for now because my capacitor is 75 vdc rated.

While operating the pulses, I put the meter on AC and there is nothing. Just a .004 volts so there is no AC while operating.

I have left the other N/O terminal of the relay open because I noticed that the relay pulsing is so fast that the relay Common does not have "time" to contact it, so basically, if pulsing these relay, the N/O terminals are useless. That's good because if it is useless for me, it must be useless for Erfinders' also, and this just canceled 4 potential variables from the equation. 

@armagdn03

Thanks for your input. The diagram I show above is doing the relay pulsing. I have noticed placing a small neo near the relay will alter the pulsing rate.

Interesting observations, I think you will change your mind about the AC component in time, remember, ac does not need to cross the zero point. perhaps you could more accurately call it AC with a DC bias, or DC with an AC component (hint: where do these occur? at what rates, why?)

Also, yes adding a magnet will alter the rate of contact, however I think you will find it to be mostly useless with the relay. The magnet, and the plate being pulled by the magnet are ferromagnetic, which means that they will act strongly with the neo, this is not helpful here, if you wanted to try magnetic quencing you would need to make sure the magnets are near the contacts only (which are made out of magnetically "safe" copper with a hard metal coating, and do not affect the electromagnet. This will not alter your freq, but it will alter its quenching rate which is most desirable,

[Schpankme]

... the AC component in time ... DC with an AC component (hint: where do these occur? at what rates, why?)

The AC component wave form implies part of another signal.  DC bias ?

- Schpankme

[wattsup]

Using my above diagram but with the secondary and primary switched, I went out and got a slew of 47uf capacitors having different AC voltages as follows;

400, 315, 250, 100, 100, 63, 25, 25, 16, 16, 16,

The repeating numbers indicate same cap voltage but different brand. Of these the 25v cap works the best offering a faster voltage rise time off the primary and an action on the relay that permitted the common terminal to contact the N/O terminal. So now I can use the N/O terminal. Rats.

I also found a 10,000uf 50vac cap for the primary side. It was the only one they had otherwise I would have taken two in parallel to achieve the maximum of what Erfinder recommended.

Trying these caps one by one and other values permitted me to see the relay function change from;

A - immediate very fast pulsing - 400 to 100 (shitty or no voltage rise)
B - very slow pulsing for about 10 seconds and then gradual increase of pulse to very fast, (not bad voltage rise)
C - steady medium fast pulsing, slow enough for the common to hit the N/O terminal. (best voltage rise) 25

I think I will have to make a small 47uf capacitor selector bank cause I may need to change the cap at varying loads.

Also, putting a load on the primary output side does change the relay pulsing speed slightly at A and B but no effect on C. You can sense how the transformers is working with the different caps and relay reaction.

The requirement of a 240 to 12 vac transformers is not crazy either. I imagine I would be getting more amps with that one compared to my 240 - 24 vac transformer. I looked again today for such a transformer but did not find any. I checked for over 30 minutes looking at all types. Most transformers of the required 8 amps are big but they also have multiple secondaries, which would be a waste to have to energize that much mass and then only draw back out the 12 volts. So I will have to find one somewhere else.

OK, I found a toroidal transformer here - model 182P12
http://www.hammondmfg.com/182.htm
Plus they have regular transformers so  will be ordering it soon.

From what I can tell of the way it works, using the true Tesla ozone patent mode shown above, Tesla did not putz around. His motor was probably turning at high rpm since his on/off was via a 100% disengaged rotary contact. He just kept spiking the primary and loading that secondary and the secondary popped ozone producing arks. Get to the point, do it, et voila.

I realize now that doing this with one relay is not fast enough to produce juice fast enough, so here comes the second relay that will do the sparky when the first relay is not. Alternating the spark will double the virtual rpm. Hey I'm even practicing for my VAR.

The craziest thing I have seen is that my battery, a 12vdc 7amp (my 4 amp was already dead so I'm charging it), has stayed at 12.80 - 12.90 volts. That's the encouraging side since I know the amount of time I used it to do testing should have dropped the battery down at least .5 - .8 vdc.

There are so many f&**&n possibilities with this thing and the learning curve is so profound that I will stick with this project realizing that in the span of many months, after playing with it for the 100th time, I will have learned more then I know now. Yo.

If I needed just one "hint" from Erfinder, I would ask how many of the relay poles are used in the system, since adding just one could send testing in a really wide range of directions. But I guess that's the point. Hint, Hint.

So, who else is trying this?

[am1ll3r]

So, who else is trying this?

I'm gathering parts...but my work and family take up most of my time at the moment
Keep up the good work