My s1r9a9m9 replication!

[xbox hacker]

for anyone who has studied the video from s1r.... at the plug one leg of the AC is at the base of the plug and the white wire goes to the "mystery can" and their is a black wire twisted with it... where do you think it goes?

[Super God]

ramset: LOL.....i didnt do it, it was s1r9a9m9, that was a quote from him on yahoo group waterfuel1978

He said he wont post parts till he figures out the surging....why no post the parts and let us help him with the surging! 

Over 3 years ago he used relays to make his 1978 le camino run on water. Everyone has been waiting for him to post a part list for the relay version of his setup.......so now, i guess we will have to wait 3 more years for the solid state version part list...LOL

here is another quote from him:
"This engine has not been changed in any way the timeing is stock from
factory. The governer only works with fuel flow in the carb not just
the intake. It came to my attention that 15 percent of the fuel I am
buying at the pump is ethonal. This lowers the carbon content in my
fuel by the same amout. So I replace the lost carbon in the fuel with
one quart of oil per 10 gallons of fuel, I was suprised to find out
that this realy helped, a 1993 jeep grand cherookee 6 banger full
time 4X4 automatic saw and incress in milage ,,, From 14 to 16
before ,,To 22 to 26 miles per gallon after. With no incress in
exhaust emissions. I guess the catverter is working just as they did
in the 70's and 80's..

I am going to make one of those hho bubble makers and see if that 18
horse briggs will handle the stuff on its on. My son said he will
find the surge problem to give me more time for a few other projects
that need to got out."

why would you bother with HHO ....when you can run on pure water??

The HHO can smooth out the performance issues and provide a little extra power I think.

[resonanceman]

About 30 - 40 degrees after top dead centre should be an ideal timing setting for a water explosion system like this.  35 degrees atdc should get it firing up smoothly although you should still get a response from the engine of some kind at the default timing setting.  Hell, Paul got his to almost idle without changing timing I believe.  All he used is an MSD-7, bigger injectors, and more fuel rail pressure (80 psi).  This was on a car with all the computer crap (1991 Mitsubishi Eclipse).

My gut feeling about the  timing  is that   so far  people have been running   way to lean .

If we can get it running  and  get  alot more water  involved  I think the  timing  should   be closer   " normal "

It seems to me that   retarding   the  timing  that much  is giving away alot of power .    it took energy to compress  the  air in the cylinder   to the  max pressure at  TDC ....... 30 degrees later  you have given alot of that  compression  away . 


I am not an expert ......but I  would think  that 5 degrees  after  TDC should be enough .     that way   you can be sure that the  crankshaft won't kick back   

The only  reason  I  can think of  for  retarding  the  timing  30 or 40 degrees would be if  the   water  was condensing and  forming a vacume   before   the  exhaust cycle .       If that is what is happening    we need to  get  the engine  temp up.  ......... or  slow down  the  burn 


gary

[resonanceman]

YEAH....whats in the cup?!?

EDIT: This is from s1r9a9m9  @ waterfuel1978 group..

"I made a short video for every one to watch.  It is a new 1 clyender
B&S 18 Hp engine that I purchased just for this video. I still did not show the parts I used because of the surging
problem.Once I fix the problem I will post a parts list. Yes they are in
the
silver covered cup where the three wires are. Yes the parts are that
small. Dont give up hope on me yet.  It did take two years to get the
relays
right, and maybe it wont take as long with the electronic stuff.The video is in the links section here and it is on youtube. It
is
listed as ( a ) not the (A) .  I tryed to put it in the files section
on the group but there is not enough room in there for it.I hope to make a video of the generator with the 305 V-8 engine
soon.
when I fix the surging thing.Watch it before the man takes it away.I expect that I will recieve more visiters now that this has
been
posted.&And yes that is water dripping from the bottle, as you watch you
will
notice that it was dripping every where. wouldn't want gas or alchol
to be every where like that right, much less hold it over the engine
while it is running. Also it is hard to see, but the bubbles that are being sucked in
the
bottle past the hose in the cap as the water is being used in the
engine.Now we move on. soon as I fix the surging the parts list will be
posted.
"

Xbox

Congradulations on getting   it  running .


You  have gone along way  toward showing  how  easy and practical it is . 




I  am guessing  you  didn't  change the timing yet . 

I would like to see you  let it  run  for a while    just to see if it  runs  better once it gets warmer

A  question .......  what about t the  choke ?    was it required to get it running .       Does  choking it  change  how it   runs ? 



gary

[resonanceman]

Xbox

Congradulations on getting   it  running .


You  have gone along way  toward showing  how  easy and practical it is . 




I  am guessing  you  didn't  change the timing yet . 

I would like to see you  let it  run  for a while    just to see if it  runs  better once it gets warmer

A  question .......  what about t the  choke ?    was it required to get it running .       Does  choking it  change  how it   runs ? 



gary

OOoooopppppsss

After  reading a few more posts I realised    it isn't  your  video .

gary