New Hexagon Cell Design: comments

[Dman27]

My reasoning to be "able" to change polarity is to identify the correct "tuning" of any cell design given the electrolyte, input voltage,amperage and the spacing between plates. Some designs have shown that the polarity on a multi-plate unit can alter the output with the same input. 

If the area of the plates combined with the power input is a major  factor then a design to get the same area in a smaller space would greatly enhance output.  A honeycomb design may achieve this effect with the overall goal being to have a much larger production from the same container with lower input power.

The theory,as I understand it, behind the Neutral plate is that some production is coming off plates that are not directly connected to power due to capacitance or whatever. These plates must add some resistance to the circuit ,but is negated by the overall resistance of the water itself. 

One thing I'm somewhat confused about is adding extra electrolytes to the water.  If we are moving toward Free Energy then we can say water "can" be free, however with each ingredient that makes up the electrolyte is added that Free Energy gets more expensive.  I know why we use these but effectively we want to use water as it is. 

Unless you can explain why a a change of polarity for the electrode/cathode increases production I'm of the opinion any change has an expense.  My question would be, "why pay it?"

Also, when something is neutral it means it's not doing any work.


Bessler007

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My idea is that that the solid center will be either positive or negative while the surrounding plates will be opposite polarity.  The outside plates are separated because it gives the option of alternating each plate's polarity,one negative the other positive around the center.  It also gives the option of some being neutral plates.

Utilizing this cell into another hexagonal group might increase HHO production by utilizing the correct spacing, polarity differences from one ring to another and magnetism effects between the ringed groups.
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Thanks. 

[Bessler007]

The compression of energy into a smaller frame of time will create more power.  The questions you need to ask wrt to your idea is:  (1) how can you cause this? and (2) what will pay for that compression?

It seems obvious the how will expain the what.


Bessler007

[Bessler007]

Hello Dman27,

My guess concerning an increase of frequency was two-fold.  One supposition was that although increasing the freq would compress more energy in a tighter frame of time producing more power it would require energy to produce more power.  So the question would be is it worth it?

The second supposition was the lost time as they frequency changed polarity at the extremes.  The point of change seems to be just a point but these points accumulate as frequency rises.

From what I can gather the material of the electrodes is just as important (if not more so) than the surface area.  Some materials have more processes happening than simply the production of Brown's gas and energy is wasted by them.

Capacitance between plates might produce gas but in most cases there is an energy cost.  Without looking at a specific example it's impossible to analyze.

If I understand your explanation of the nature of your design it has two points.  One is to maximize volume and the other is to ?tune? it in an attempt to find the ideal freq to maximize Brown's gas.

From the link (U of Cambridge) below it seems the  best voltage might be an ac wave of a higher freq riding on a steady sweep of a slower rising dc wave (like a triangle wave).  I read the site kind of quickly and might have it wrong but since you have a better idea what you're looking for you most likely won't miss as much as I did.

Hope this helps.


Bessler007


http://www.cheng.cam.ac.uk/research/groups/electrochem/JAVA/electrochemistry/ELEC/contents.html

[Bessler007]

Dman27,

I missed a point.  I think the electrolysis happens above a threshold voltage between electrodes.  If that's the case then as the voltage alternates there would be more than a point where no work would happen.  There could be the benefit of longevity for the cell but wrt gas production I can't see one.


Bessler007

[Bessler007]

One final point.  First let me explain the MIB's in this incident were driving a black Lincoln Town car, not black helicopters.  These were not my agents.  There has been a directive recently from the very top echelons of mib HQ not to harass, accost, nor in any way impair those researching Brown gas technology.

VENTURA COUNTY, CALIFORNIA, USA -- On May 16, a technician who was one of a team of garage experimenters investigating a hydrogen-on-demand technology was run off the road near a rural intersection and accosted by four white, middle-aged males in black suits, carrying Glocks and Mac tens.  The assailants were driving a late model, black Lincoln Town Car.

Bessler007
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