Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[aether22]

I ran the wall power through a transformeer that put out about 130v AC (I forget just what the figure was) and then ran that through the Triac power controller.

I was able to observe a mild slowing down when the HC coils were shorted, but at any speed i was not able to find any speed difference with the HV coils were shorted positive or negative.

I have one question for Thane.

How large is the gap in your MOT generator (the small one preferably).
My thought is that the rotor Thane sent me may have the cups slightly too recessed and along with the wobble the magnets are not having enough of an influence.

I will consider splitting the cores as promised, using half the number of laminations assuming I understand what Thane did.

But first I'll make a video of all this crappy failure.

Which I am cringing at the thought of cause my workshop is very messy!

[CRANKYpants]

I have a Thane certified Rotor, if I get a Thane certified coil then the only thing really left to be wrong would be the motor.

WHAT FREQUENCY DO YOU USE THERE IN BAGGOTVILLE?

Thane

[aether22]

WHAT FREQUENCY DO YOU USE THERE IN BAGGOTVILLE?

Thane

50hz 240v

[CRANKYpants]

How large is the gap in your MOT generator (the small one preferably).
My thought is that the rotor Thane sent me may have the cups slightly too recessed and along with the wobble the magnets are not having enough of an influence.

I will consider splitting the cores as promised, using half the number of laminations assuming I understand what Thane did.

I SENT JM SOME PHOTOS OF COILS FOR POSTING.

AETHER TRY SOMETHING FIRST - CAN YOU MAKE YOUR ROTOR A 6 POLE ROTOR BUT USING 3 MAGNETS TO MAKE 1 POLE i.e. NNN, SSS, NNN, SSS, NNN, SSS ? AND USE WASHERS TO GET THE SPACING RIGHT?

IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THIS IS THE ONLY WAY I WAS ABLE TO GET ACCELERATION OUT OF A MOT IN MY EARLIER DAYS.

NOW ALSO TRY SOMETHING ELSE - LOOK AT MY GOOD MOT TRANSFORMER PAIR AND NOTE THE AMOUNT OF BACK IRON AND ASK YOURSELF IF THIS HAS ANY EFFECT ON STORING AETHER OR BUBBLE GUM OR WHATEVER?

Thane

[CRANKYpants]

14.9 watts electrical O/P is hardly something to crow about, if it takes 145 watts to maintain it.
Induction motors are not renowned for high efficiency, but they are still reasonably efficient at rated speed and loading, so that leaves in question the efficiency of the generator, and its contribution as part of the whole system efficiency.

YOU ARE EITHER IGNORANT OR DELIBERATELY NEGATING - POSTED DATA.
THE OVERALL EFFICIENCY OF THE SYSTEM IS OF NO CONSEQUENCE - WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS WHAT IS THE EFFECT UNDER LOADING.

Your own figures show a max total system electrical transfer of only 10.3% efficiency. I know you can do much better that.!  And no doubt, you know you can too.

I AGREE - YOUR FOCUS HERE (10.3%) IS DECEPTIVE AND MISLEADING

I'm in Ozzie territory. Readers will  make up their own minds whether something is negative or not, or erroneous or not etc ...

NOT TRUE - SOME PEOPLE ARE SWAYED AN THE WRONG DIRECTION AND THEN MAY HAVE TO UNLEARN WRONG TEACHING - WHICH DOES NOT SERVE THEM WELL.

Is information only a positive contribution if it is derived from current physical models only ?

ON THIS THREAD I WOULD SAY YES TO THAT - JUST AS THIS INFO WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE ON ANOTHER THREAD THAT FOCUSES ON ANOTHER TOPIC.

What about Nali2001? His model was constructed before he posted to this forum. And he showed video and photos. When he gave his honest opinion on what he thought caused the effect and released more detailed information about his setup, you resorted to personal attack by calling him a scumbag. Why?

BECAUSE MY OPINION (MY GUT FEELING) IS THAT NALI2001 IS NOT BEING STRAIGHT WITH US.
IT MAY TAKE SOME TIME TO CHANGE MY OPINION HOWEVER. - JUST LIKE IT IS MY OPINION THAT YOU USE THIS THREAD TO PROMOTE YOUR WORK INSTEAD OF STARTING YOUR OWN THREAD WITH THE APPROPRIATE FOCUS.

The fact that he achieved acceleration using a non short circuit load with low impedance coils (in parallel), which also exhibited a reasonably useful level of electrical O/P from the same coils, (not separate coils), at the same time, should be cause for encouragement to him and anybody else wishing to build for themselves. Even if you don't agree with his prognosis of the effect and his conclusions.

- THERE IS ZERO ATTEMPT TO SHOW PRIME MOVE I/P
- NOR IS THERE ANY VERBAL AUDIO -
- AND THE SYSTEM APPEARS TO ACCELERATE BEFORE HE LIGHTS THE LIGHT
- AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT WORKS AS HE SAYS.

BUT THEN THAT'S JUST MY CONCLUSION - AND IT MY BE WRONG BUT AT LEAST I AM HONEST ENOUGH TO PUBLISH MY REAL NAME BEHIND MY WORK - WHICH IS THE REAL CLINCHER ON THE INTERNET WHERE EVERYTHING IS SUSPECT AND ONLY A FOOL WOULD BELIEVE OTHERWISE.

Thane