Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[aether22]

Ok, I just tried my monster coil, and IT'S ALIVE!!  Ah aha ha ha ha  come quickly igor come.

It is indeed of too many turns, I can't measure it's voltage when I reduce the gap as it soon starts reading 800v and as the meter can only be taken safely to 750v I had to stop there.

But even with HUGE gaps it accelerates the coil when shorted, now maybe some of this is the fact that the tach can really clarify smaller changes, or the fact that this rotor happily goes at 2800+rpm without sounding like the world's gonna end but I think much of it is the power from the stacked magnets even though it totally kills my MOT performance.

It accelerates quite well no matter what tap points I  short. (not really compared the results yet though)

I will do more tests in the morning, I didn't get to measure it's current but dollars to donuts it should be far far below the lethal MOT HV currents, in fact I may have to read it on a different range. (20ma range probably)

It is so odd that until I did everything I could to reduce the gap I couldn't get the effect but now I can get the effect even with gaps of over a cm! (probably a few cm but I didn't measure it, it also worked fine with tiny gaps)

In fact because I very much want to replicate Thanes isolation experiment and since I can't readily put this new rotor on the isolation axle (I don't think) I will put some other stronger (thicker) magnets in Thanes rotor I have lying around which should help me get the effect with Thanes rotor and hopefully with the solid core and multi choice of coil tappings I should be able to replicate the test showing that the effect is of aether (or something) getting to the motor I hope.

I just hope acceleration still occurs with Thanes rotor.   (also I'd put decent odds of the transformer stators improving acceleration with the 3x stack if the gap was larger)


So to get the effect (in case anyone reading this might want to, actually replications seem to have dried up):
Strong magnetic field that projects further (thicker Neo's)
Faster is better (the effect always works more powerfully at higher rpm's but not too close to the synch speed, another clue it's the motor)
More alternating magnet poles means more effect.
Smaller gap and gap variation between rotor and stator..
Reduce cogging torque, rotor stator rubbing, vibration and others even if it means increasing the gap it will work if you have strong magnets.
Either a solid core coil or for higher efficiency laminations, the latter possibly not suited to replication of the isolation experiments Thane first demoed.
Coils with many turns, so many they can have ohms as high as a few hundred (500 and above), or as low as 50, more turns is not always better, at least not when it increases impedance more than inducing voltage. (resistance of the coil is simply an easy way to keep track of it, what is wanted is more turns in the rotors inductive field)
Large MOT cores (although if you are just using the laminations and going to wind your own coil then any transformer of an agreeable size will do) work better if split in half so not too large.   It seems likely that flux density in the core should be high but not beyond saturation and face large enough to pull in the majority of the rotor flux.
Put multiple coils insufficient to create the effect around a rotor and the effect can kick in, especially if they are in series with adding voltages.
Close the stators magnetic path.
Must use a real tachometer, Larry, I order you to go out and buy one, sooo incredibly glad I bought mine.
Use a bench grinder induction motor (175w-300w 240v or 110v) , and use a variac or triac to control speed, the latter is cheap and easily bought/made.    Cast iron spoked pulley's and suited bushings make a very nice precision quality rotor that behaves well at high speeds.  customwood or steel magnet holders are easily made.

[aether22]

You have not made any argument that refutes what that fellow is saying. I won't re-post his points because it's long and it would be redundant. However, I think it was detailed, logical, well supported and well reasoned - and I think if you have counter-arguments it deserves more than your dismissive "he's a hack". I think the reason why you refuse to detail your counter-arguments is that they have no substance. But I'd be happy to be proved wrong.

I could point you to past posts I have made but what honestly is the point, there needs to be some reason for me to say the same old, so how about this.
If I give reasons that show his argument can't possibly cover the majority if any of what has been observed will you leave, for good, not come back? (provided you can't counter everything I say point by point with facts and everybody (Thane, JM, Larry, Ron, Steve) agree that you have done so.

Or I'll give you an alternative, read posts 2325 page 59 and see what evidence I give in that post contradicts that phd's theory, I could have written a wonderful criticism in the time it took to find that post, but I do not want to actually argue with you, I could even write a single line which is the whole faulty premise it is based on and it would be shorter than this line, but you see you aren't a genuine person and actually writing anything intelligent for you to read is like casting pearls before swine, only far far worse.

It would be like debating with my computer, no chance of getting anywhere.  now swearing at my computer may at least make me feel good. (note: I love my PC, mostly, even my totally (not) genuine Vista! i swear that OS doesn't get enough love)

Now if anyone else wants to know where the phd went wrong I would be more than happy to tell you.

[LarryC]

@Aether22,

Wow, what a fountain of testing information! Can you give me more detail on your tachometer?


@Thane,

You didn't just create a monster, more like a Thanemanian Devil.

Regards, Larry

[OUman]

If I give reasons that show his argument can't possibly cover the majority if any of what has been observed will you leave, for good, not come back? (provided you can't counter everything I say point by point with facts and everybody (Thane, JM, Larry, Ron, Steve) agree that you have done so.

OK, I agree to that. Go ahead.

I love my PC, mostly, even my totally (not) genuine Vista! i swear that OS doesn't get enough love)

Click here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=knxqqrrEEmI

[aether22]

@Aether22,

Wow, what a fountain of testing information! Can you give me more detail on your tachometer?

Laser optical, it can resolve a 1/10 of an rpm as lower rpm's (several hundred) and then switches to 1rpm resolution, it also counts up revolutions. It sadly only goes to 100,000 rpm but at least that is high enough for Thanerator testing, although by putting it on total revolutions and holding the button down for x seconds could give you far higher rpm's with the bother of a watch and a calculator.  It cost me $80NZD and was worth every penny for the comparativly accurate and trustworthy results.

I doubt the brand matters in the least but if I can find the box I'll update this post.