Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[aether22]

Kirchhoff's Voltage Law (KVL)

The voltage changes (RISES OR DROPS) around any closed loop must sum to zero. No matter what path you take through an electric circuit, if you return to your starting point you must measure the same voltage, constraining the net change around the loop to be zero. Since voltage is electric potential energy per unit charge, the voltage law can be seen to be a consequence of conservation of energy.

Ah, well that's the thing.
Kirchhoff's law is regarding voltage drops (or rises), but really in a shorted coil there are no rises or drops.
You only get a rise or a drop is you have differences in a circuit, if one part is better at generating a current (a battery) and another part is better at resisting a current (a resistor) then the current initiated by the battery will have trouble flowing through the resistor as fast as it did through the battery, this means a pressure or potential difference will occur, on one side of the resistor the electrons will be packed tight (as tight as the batter can) and on the other side the electrons will be deficient.

But with a coil every turn does the same as every other turn, it has a voltage induced in it by the rotor and it produces a magnetic field of it's own that it also responds to, and it has a tiny bit of resistance.

And so as every part is the same no part really puts out more or less, resists more or less what you get is (assuming it is shorted) a circuit without any drops or rises in voltage.

SO YOU HAVE A HV COIL SIMULTANEOUSLY INDUCING AND DISSIPATING A VOLTAGE - WITH LITTLE OR NO CURRENT COMPARED TO A CONVENTIONAL HC COIL'S PERFORMANCE.

Don't say no current, that's simply untrue, and it is more than enough to kill.
And you can put that current through a step down transformer and have plenty of current.
It's the same energy, it is important you understand that, Ron got about 30w from his HV coil, that's more than anyone has pulled from the HC coil of a Thanerator yet.

But yes, it is less current but may I make another point, it has the same ampere turns (Magneto motive force).
So what this means basically is that the HV coil (not really high voltage when shorted) has the same number of electrons orbiting the stator core as the HC coil, it create a magnetic field just as strong as the HC coil and from a conventional understanding identical to it even if we know that's not the whole answer.
The difference is simply how dizzy an electron gets before it's made the whole journey through the coil and if his friends are in front and behind mostly (HV) or more at his side (HC).

DOES THIS NOT SOUND LIKE THE ANODE AND CATHODE OF A CAPACITOR TO YOU?

SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AT A LOW SPEED (FREQUENCY) THE HV COIL ACTS LIKE A NORMAL LENZ DICTATED COIL AND SLOWS THE ROTOR - THEN ABOVE A CERTAIN FREQUENCY (ROTOR SPEED) IT CHANGES PERFORMANCE 180 DEGREES.

IM MY LITTLE BRAIN THIS IS WHEN THE COIL'S IMPEDANCE CHOKES THE CURRENT FROM INCREASING BEYOND A CERTAIN POINT AND THE COIL STARTS ACTING MORE LIKE A CAPACITOR.

T

Um, problem is that does not make sense or agree with conventional electromagnetism or agree with measurements so far.
The impedance does not choke the coil. (the exception would be if you had 2 very different coils, if for instance part of the HV coil was not induced much or at all by the rotor and only induced it's self then it would choke it)

If you double the number of turns the sensitivity to it it's own field is doubled (self inductance/impedance), this is true, but so does the voltage induced from the rotor, and so it ends up with the same mmf/ampere turns, the same energy.

Now if you were to add an external inductor to the HV coil, one that was not induced by the rotor then you would have everything you say, but none of that applies to any of the HV coils you have so far made.

[aether22]

The importance of being right (not).

Here's the thing, I know you are wrong. I know your theory is flawed.
I do NOT KNOW that the acceleration effect occurs at the motor but there is lots of evidence that has not been discounted that it does and no real evidence to the contrary. (nor a likely sounding theory)

I KNOW that if the effect is real (which I consider to be proven BTW) it is based on manipulation of the aether, most likely by primarily having it improve motor performance.

And guess what, all of that is totally unimportant, well almost.
Because I have known more than you about how Free Energy and Antigravity devices work for say a decade or longer.
And yet my greatest success to date was replicating the generator you made.

And that is why I say that maybe it is best that you hold on to an idea that is wrong but let's you work rather than one that confounds you, because the difference between you and I is not how right we are or how much we know but rather how much we experiment, and how well.

You experiment lots because you have a better work ethic, and you are not as easily discouraged  and because you likely had an edge at hands on stuff (and because you don't 'Live' in your mind, which causes analysis paralysis), and you found this effect, I did not.
I was simply not good at the psychological impact of failed experiments so I tried fewer and gave up earlier, in part because I know just how mysterious and fuzzy the aether can be. (luckily you have a highly reliable experiment that can be replicated rather well)

So while I hope that my understanding can help direct this research into something much greater much sooner than would be possible without it I really don't think it is important that you understand what you are doing if you don't want to, I can give you 1,000 ideas to improve the effect that may not work simply because I do not have enough detailed in depth info (doubtful but go wit it), and yet you can stumble on something even without understanding why it works.

And there isn't too much advantage us both covering the same experiments, so you trying stuff that I wouldn't think of isn't a bad thing.
If you finally become curious enough and choose to really adopt the aether then I will be happy to tell you, but your work laboring under a misconception (as even you view the 'old Thane' to be mistaken) has been more fruitful than mine despite me being totally right, which as it turns out is by it's self worthless!


Disclaimer:
To outsiders, INTJs may appear to project an aura of "definiteness", of self-confidence. This self-confidence, sometimes mistaken for simple arrogance by the less decisive, is actually of a very specific rather than a general nature; its source lies in the specialized knowledge systems that most INTJs start building at an early age. When it comes to their own areas of expertise -- and INTJs can have several -- they will be able to tell you almost immediately whether or not they can help you, and if so, how. INTJs know what they know, and perhaps still more importantly, they know what they don't know.

[aether22]

The importance of deleting double posts.

[CRANKYpants]

You experiment lots because you have a better work ethic, and you are not as easily discouraged  and because you likely had an edge at hands on stuff (and because you don't 'Live' in your mind, which causes analysis paralysis), and you found this effect, I did not.

GOOD OBSERVATIONS - I DIDN'T GET ANYWHERE (FOR 3 YEARS) UNTIL I GOT MY HANDS DIRTY.

I was simply not good at the psychological impact of failed experiments so I tried fewer and gave up earlier

YEP, I WAS CRUSHED MANY TIMES - WENT TO BED DISCOURAGED AND ALWAYS WOKE UP WITH A NEW AND BETTER IDEA TO KEEP ME TRYING - THAT AND THE FACT THAT I ALSO NEEDED TO CREATE "A NEW LIFE" FOR MYSELF CAUSE I WASN'T GOING BACK TO THE OLD ONE.

SO YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DISTILL YOUR THEORY DOWN INTO SOMETHING EVERYONE CAN "SEE" IN THEIR MINDS EYE.

T

[CRANKYpants]

NOW IS YOU CHANCE THE WORLD IS WAITING...?
WHAT SAY YOU?
T
----- Original Message -----
From: Raptis Theofanis <rtheo@dat.demokritos.gr>
To: Kim Cunningham
Cc: Thane.Heins@yahoo.ca <Thane.Heins@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Mon Jun 09 22:04:43 2008
Subject: RE: Generator Technology

Dear gentlemen

Thank you for replying. I am somewhat perplexed from your description of the device. While I understand
the magnetic coupling, I dont quite get the significance of the extra high voltage coil. Is this the second
wheel-like ring in the opposite side of the generator? Could we find a schematic of the overall configuration
in your website?

To my understanding, there would be no other way to get more energy out of a closed system than the one put in
than by absorbing an amount of the so called ZPF or vacuum energy. Even this requires to show how would it be
possible for a field configuration to resonate with this substrate. Others may call this a  gauge symmetry breaking
but it is not clear how would this take place at such a low energy level in a macroscopic scale.

There are some theories about "hidden momentum" when magnets are involved, in which case conservation laws
still hold but in the case of electromagnetism they contain three terms of which the 3d is simply "radiation reaction".
In that sense I would expect a kind of radiation with strong opposite angular momentum to counteract the appearing
acceleration. Have you checked that with any instrument?

best regards

Theophanes Raptis
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From: Kim Cunningham [KCunningham@ocri.ca]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 9:26 PM
To: Raptis Theofanis
Cc: Thane C. Heins; Markus Zahn; rhabash@uottawa.ca
Subject: Generator Technology

My name is Kim Cunningham. I am the Vice President of Communications for Potential Difference. Thank you for your email inquiry.

The technology continues to evolve.  We have prepared this updated and current information to provide as an update to interested parties. As a courtesy, please find attached recent data and video taken at the University of Ottawa.

The essence of the invention is using high voltage coils to counteract the effects of the high current coils (used in every generator in the world). The high current coils cause deceleration under load but the high voltage coils cause acceleration under load.

Please find attached a link to the latest video and some relevant test data obtained earlier in May which was performed on the Perepiteia Generating system depicted in the videos attached.

The videos demonstrate our ability to create "regenerative acceleration" in a generator which will ultimately be employed in an electric vehicle. Currently electric vehicles employ regenerative braking to recharge batteries during operation - this however should actually be called "degenerative acceleration" because as the vehicle decelerates the regenerative capabilities diminish towards zero.

Our ultimate goal is to create a full generating system as shown in Table # 4 - where we showcase our proven ability to create a generator where power is delivered to the battery with no "cost" to the system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaf9v0K-rZw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCvhxHh_ctE

If you are interested in additional information, please contact me.

Sincerely,

Kim Cunningham