Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[hoptoad]

...... so it would be a shocker, a real blow to find a simple 26 turn solid single strand coil cause acceleration.

No shock or surprise to me. I've stated all along that HV (high impedance) coils are not a strict pre-requisite for acceleration to occur.
And neither is a complete short circuit required if you have the correct coil parameters for your rotor.

Cheers

[aether22]

OR CORE SATURATION - TRY WINDING IT ON A MOT CORE.

Thane

I will, but I think what I need to do is do the experiment this one was based on.

I take my multitap coil and reverify that connecting and one tap point to the one either side will cause deceleration, and reverify that shorted end to end it accelerates.

I can then try shorting all points simultaneously and see if that causes acceleration or deceleration.

I will then try wrapping the multistrand around the MOT core for a further test, and I have another idea which if it works will take me back to that happy place I was in just moments ago.

[aether22]

What the fudding hell!

I have the motor at just, I forget the figure but it's in the 700's rpm's range, a lowish speed test. (the above tests were all done above 2,600 rpm, I simply hadn't tested them at these low speeds, no real reason)

And I setup my MOT core, the original one with which I first got acceleration, and I did a test I had done before, I shorted out a HC coil.   Guess what.

Acceleration!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not happy, rather pissed of at the utter inconsistency, I had shorted them before and like Thane in the video got deceleration, but not now, now I get acceleration.

There are 2 things worth noting.
First is that this HC MOT coil is actually copper, the other 2 are Al but this one is copper.
The other point is that when I previously did the shorting test I had on the other core (because it's 2 full MOT cores as in Thane and Luc's first MOT core video) the other MOT HCC, where in this test I had 11 turns of that 2mm wire (the same length of wire that I did the lest earlier with) on the other core, but I didn't get to shorting it since the 'control' (really a control of a control) caused acceleration.

The possibilities are almost endless, it could be that I never tested deceleration with the new (cast iron pulley) rotor, it could be that the rotor has become aetherized, or charged with orgone to such a point that HCC's work (but if so why the positively crappy results from my new coil?) or that the gap and speed are just such that vastly different coils are now working.

One thing is for sure, and I know Thane, Larry, Ron and Vince will all agree, sometimes you just don't get the same results twice!

Addition:

I think I'm going to go back to my new mot core since that one showed deceleration most recently, i am not sure if I will be happier with or without deceleration from it, if there is acceleration from HC shorting then at least that would prove that the rotor has become charged and it now giving consistently different results (similar to Thane's 'gotta flux the shaft' comment) .

However if it shows deceleration then I should be able to redo my test.

Addition2:
One other notable is that the gap in the previous tests were as tiny as I could get them, but this test had a far larger gap.  And yes still 1x6 rotor, so low RPM, bigish gap, single shorted copper MOT HCC causing acceleration when before under similar circumstances it has shown marked deceleration.   Very freaking odd.

[aether22]

Before I pulled the stator out I tested it more and found the MOT HCC causes deceleration below 700rpm, but acceleration above 700rpm.

And the 11 turn coil caused deceleration at lower speeds and caused no observable change at higher rpm's. (1.5A current)

For now that's it but it is kinda nice to know I can still get deceleration because this all becomes harder if i always get acceleration and the only measure of success is 'how much'.

Oh, and one other thought came to me, the 2mm HCC on the end of the monster coil's core only caused acceleration after I hooked it up to my multimeter to measure the current, the multimeter is of course thin multistrand wire. (if that counts I have no idea, but obviously it doesn't compare to the 630 strand stuff, oh, i feel another test coming on...)

[CRANKYpants]

One thing is for sure, and I know Thane, Larry, Ron and Vince will all agree, sometimes you just don't get the same results twice!

NO KIDDING IN MY LAST 2 VIDEOS - COIL # 1 GAVE ACCELERATION FROM DAY 1 - COIL # 2 TOOK 2 WEEKS OF NOT WORKING WHICH KILLED ME BECAUSE I WOUND IT THE SAME DAY WITH SAME WIRE ETC. THEN I GOT SO PISSED I RAN IT 1T 3500 RPM FOR A LONG TIME AND NOW IT WORKS AS WELL OR BETTER THAN COIL # 1 

AS SHOWN IN THE VIDEO COIL #2 WORKS WELL STARTING AT 500 RPM - WHEN FIRST WOUND IT WOULD GIVE MODERATE ACCELERATION BUT ONLY NEAR FULL RPM. NOW COIL #1 AND #2 GIVE VERY BRISK AND CONSISTENT ACCELERATION - SO MUCH SO I USED THEM IN MY INVESTOR DEMO THIS PAST MONDAY.

TODAY I RAN COIL #2 WITH THE 150 LB STRENGTH MAGNETS AND GOT SO MUCH ACCELERATION SO QUICKLY THAT IT SCARED THE SH_T OUT OF ME.

CURRENTLY - COIL # 3, 4 AND 5 ALL HV COILS DON'T WORK AT ALL BUT MAKE WONDERFUL BRAKES!

I NOTICED THIS VERY EARLY ON IN MY BASEMENT SOME - OFTEN NEW COILS WOULD NOT WORK FOR A BRIEF PERIOD AND THEN WORK VERY WELL AFTER SOME TIME - WHEREAS OTHERS WOULD WORK RIGHT AWAY.

T