Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[broli]

THERE IS A COSMIC JOKE BEING PLAYED ON ALL THE OU PEOPLE HERE...

WHO ARE BLIND  AND CAN'T RECOGNIZE SOMETHING WHEN IT IS SITTING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FIT SOME PRESCRIBED FORMULA. 

OU PEOPLE WHO ARE EVERY BIT AS RIGID AND EMBEDDED IN DOGMA AS CONVENTIONAL SCIENTISTS WHO THEY CRITICIZE. 

I SWEAR THIS IS THE VERY REASON JESUS DOESN'T SHOW HIS FACE AROUND CHRISTIANS - WHO WOULD KILL HIM
INSTANTLY.

CHEERS TO
ALL

Thane your formula's where fine to me it was your chicken dance that wasn't on par with OU standards. Please practice and try again.

[fred2890]

200w=x(rpm)+0w ->when the coils en disengaged
200w=y(rpm)+9w ->when coils are engaged

normally, these equation to be true,  x(rpm) need to be superior than y(rpm) ok?
But here, x<y  humm... I don't know why, but that it..

You are all right when you said that power in vs power out is not very good ... but imagine that the 9w we get with the coils are used for power in,  so the real power in from an electric source is 191w. (if we always give 200w to the motor)

200w=x(rpm)
191w=y(rpm)
ok?

how can that setup give us a x(rpm) smaller than y(rpm)??
there is something somewhere not normal....
but! it's a good news because with this special phenomenon, we can reduce input power to turn a shaft at y(rpm)

Now, imagine that we use a lot more and bigger coils, maybe that we can reduce the input power to 100w?50w? 10w? for the same rpm...
AFTER that, we can use a conventional generator to convert those rpm in electricity power...
when all that is finished, now we can measure the Pin vs Pout and maybe we'll get an OU system?

maybe that system is only a transition phase between a motor and a generator??

One test you could make  M.T,  just put a conventional generator on your motor,  without engaging the coils and after try with coil shorted... you could just read the power out from the generator + the power from the HC coils... we'll see how much your system is vs only a generator??
But, if you have other coils left, try with a lot more coils ...

Fred

[hoptoad]

The motor accelerates ITSELF under load. As far as I know theres never been anything else thats ever done that in the history of the world.

You obviously missed my explanation of a low impedance generator doing this ( http://www.totallyamped.net/adams    pages 8 and 10) posted nearly 18 months ago, before Thane started this thread, and you also obviously missed Nali2001's motor/low impedance generator combo doing it, and you've obviously never contructed an Adams motor utilizing the flyback circuit through a load, which also does this - albeit much more efficiently!
Note also that Robert Adams presented this phenomena (shorted coil acceleration) in 1977, while Tesla used a shorted coil in one of his "novel" induction motors.

Cheers

[capthook]

The request made many, many times, and unanswered by you, it to show POWER IN - WATTAGE DRAWN FROM THE AC OUTLET BY YOUR MOTOR.
Without POWER IN measured, calculating efficiency is impossible.

I am wrong.  You HAVE presented electrical power in.  With the large amount of posts/info guess I (and others?) missed it.  My apologies.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4047.msg161419#msg161419
"LANGLEY 1
REGENERATIVE ACCELERATION MODE
@ 85 VOLTS / 217 WATTS TO PRIME MOVER - OUTPUT = 8.5 WATTS

LANGLEY 2
REGENERATIVE ACCELERATION MODE
@ 85 VOLTS / 193 WATTS TO PRIME MOVER - OUTPUT = 19.6 WATTS"

19.6/193 = 10% efficiency (electrical power out/electrical power in)

Only other thoughts to offer - I'll leave you to your work 

A 100ohm HC coil is dissipating alot of power.  A larger gauge wire and the smaller P=IR^2 loss to increase efficiency and then winding the HV coils larger or with smaller wire to increase the HV voltage to negate the increase of HC current.

Increasing magnet size/depth to increase the flux.

Minimizing core size to minimize rotor drag.  I haven't followed this enough to know your process/thinking and I'm sure you've considered this greatly.... but that sure is a huge chunk of metal next to those magnets. 
Have you ever considered an air core design?  Dual-rotor axial flux Hugh Piggot style?  If it's the HV COILS giving you acceleration, then the cores should not be the critical component? 
HAVE you determined it's the COILS working on LENZ and not the coils reducing the drag of the cores?
(it appears from the nasa videos you HAVE conclusively determined it's LENZ)

[CRANKYpants]

I am wrong.  You HAVE presented electrical power in.  With the large amount of posts/info guess I (and others?) missed it.  My apologies.

AND MAN ENOUGH TO ADMIT IT - GOOD!

19.6/193 = 10% efficiency (electrical power out/electrical power in)

WITHOUT HV COILS OUTPUT = 0.0 WATTS
YOUR 10% FACTORS IN THE EFFICIENCY OF THE MOTOR WHICH HAS NO INTEREST TO US.

Only other thoughts to offer - I'll leave you to your work 

A 100ohm HC coil is dissipating alot of power.  A larger gauge wire and the smaller P=IR^2 loss to increase efficiency and then winding the HV coils larger or with smaller wire to increase the HV voltage to negate the increase of HC current

WE GO WITH WHAT WORKS AND THEM MODIFY - WHEN COLESTON WAS IN THE LAB HE SAW HV COILS USING 26 GAUGE WIRE @ 25 OHMS WHICH REALLY WORK WELL BUT THE MINIMUM ROTOR SPEED IS HIGHER.

Increasing magnet size/depth to increase the flux.

Minimizing core size to minimize rotor drag.  I haven't followed this enough to know your process/thinking and I'm sure you've considered this greatly.... but that sure is a huge chunk of metal next to those magnets. 

Have you ever considered an air core design?  Dual-rotor axial flux Hugh Piggot style?  If it's the HV COILS giving you acceleration, then the cores should not be the critical component? 

HAVE you determined it's the COILS working on LENZ and not the coils reducing the drag of the cores?
(it appears from the nasa videos you HAVE conclusively determined it's LENZ)

THOSE CORES ARE VERY HIGH QUALITY TRANSFORMER LAMINATES - WHEN PROPERLY MOUNTED WITH 2 OR MORE COILS THE COGGING TORQUE DROPS TOWARDS ZERO.

ALSO THESE TESTS ARE ONLY MEANT TO SHOW THE GENERATOR REACTION TO LOADING - NOT - EFFICIENCY

BY MATCHING THE HC COIL WITH THE CORRECT LOAD - I.E. FRANCE COIL WITH 25 OHM LOAD RATHER THAN 47 OHMS - THE VOLTAGE ACROSS THE LOAD REMAINS AT 27 VOLTS OR 29.2 WATTS (UP FROM 8.5 WATTS) WITH 197 WATTS TO THE MOTOR  AND THE ITALIAN COIL IS 64 WATTS - THE AIR GAP HAS ALSO BEEN REDUCED.

ONCE AGAIN GENERATOR OUTPUT = 0.0 WATTS WITH NO HV COILS.

T