Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[Covey]

oops..to many responds

[Covey]

It seems to only happen when I query through Google.com and after clicking on any links listed for Overunity.com when clicked on through Google search takes you to a porn site.
I just happened to be clicking on the forum for Thane, I think all links on Google for Overunity does it.
And I live in Canada as well..

@ minde4000

There must have been something wrong with your query as all the links to Thane's work and newspaper articles are still available on Google when I queried the following:

Query = Thane Heins Perepiteia:
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=Thane+Heins+Perepiteia&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=

Query = Thane Heins Perepeteia:
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ei=CMUGSqu6HYOHtgflzdmcBw&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=1&q=Thane+Heins+Perepeteia&spell=1

News:

http://news.google.ca/archivesearch?pz=1&ned=ca&hl=en&q=Thane+heins&cf=all

All my searches were performed from Canada, are you performing the searches from another country?  If so why would they be blocking it I wonder?


Regards,
Paul

[Covey]

Thanks hydro for the info, I do understand the len's law and his effect to overcome it. I guess I was looking for practical applications to better understand what was going on and the potential. I'm to far from understanding the technical side because my electrical experience was very limited. I haven't even referd to any of what I have learned for 15 years and even then mostly it was the beginnings of basic electrical theory.
So as I understand his over coming the lenz law will in effect do as he's been showing in his video's and the system is carried in momentum with the help of the magnets and speeds the system up. So it's not about pushing the motor beyond it's limits it's more the fact that he can get back from what he puts in?
You know as I re read what you've stated it really does sound like a perpetual motion machine because in a sense it sounds like it's able to rotate itself with only the power of the magnets. After overcoming the lenz law which means the system should slow down, it instead speeds up. So their still is voltage but a minimal amount to run it and it speeds up instead of slowing down. When he puts the coil into effect the normal effect should be that the opposites repel and create drag but at the right RPM the opposite happens and from that he's trying to understand it himself by seeing if it is a potential by in some way like in the last video to try and have a greater output of voltage out. Can he some how feed that back into the system and then show it as a perpetual?
Is that also what he's been showing us?
It's almost as if their is something greater here lurking just beyond the box of creativity and should one of us see it, we'll fully understand what truly is going on. I see why the almost anal retentive approach to trying to make this understood.
You know if I could afford it this would be my new venture, seems interesting.
I guess that will be for tomorrow.
It's fun to speculate but I really want to get my hands dirty..
I wish I could try it myself.
Covey

Thane is trying to show multiple things at the same time using his Ryobi demostration unit. The Ryobi was not chosen for efficiency but as a handy rotor drive mechanism. One of the biggest things that Thane has shown is that you can "cheat" Lenz law. You have to have current flowing in order to have Lenz take effect. If you only have voltage flowing and not current then the Lenz is not as bad. In order to have only voltage and very little current you have to wind coils with lots of very fine (30 to 40)  gauge wire. The additional benefit is that the Lenz that develops in the setup is delayed by using finer wire and that allows the resulting magnetic field that forms in the coils/cores to push the rotor magnets along in the path of rotor rotation. This only will start to happen at a certain RPM depending on several conditions and is why in his demos you will see the rotor slow down if the rotor RPM is not above a certain threshold.
The effect should work on a smaller scale but it would require a fair amount of trial and error.
  In reviewing the last video that Thane posted that has his huge backing core with fingers I think I see a potential  problem. I think once he gets over half the new system populated with coils it will no longer speed up but will in fact slow down. This is because his huge backer core will act as a magnetic short for the entire system. I think he will have to segment (cut) the core into 1/3 or 1/4 parts in order to keep the rotor effect increasing.
I really wish Thane would update us with more news.

[baroutologos]

Hello,

I was reading the other days the Perepiteia article in wikipedia. Quite interesting one! It depicts Thane's CV in a nut shell.

A brief summury...
Thane works on Perepiteia since 2003. He tried unsuccesfully to Patent it in Canadian patent office.

After that, he enstablished his company in order to commercially exploit Perepiteia's design even though without a patent (?)
He is somekind obssesed with Peripeteia and he is totally conviced that he has a invaluable machine to his hands.
He had been working on it endless hours and knows about everything in practical terms.

He invited a proffesor from Ottawa University to see and judge and he admited it works.
The in turn that Professor consulted the MIT and another proffesor came. He also admited it works also although till then he had no any apparent explanation.

I wish not in repeating the whole wikipedia article, but i want to emphasize that anyone no matter how skilled is on the electromechanic art, and seen Perepiteia admited it works (pls inform me if somebody found out it is not :p )

The critics of Peripeteia are found among the theorists only!

So its more than obvious we deal with something at least extraordinary and still awfully simple in principle.

I urge anyone interested in OU to take on from here.
This is the purpose of sites like this in the bottom line.


Regards,
Baroutologos

[hydrocontrol]

Thanks hydro for the info, I do understand the len's law and his effect to overcome it. I guess I was looking for practical applications to better understand what was going on and the potential.

Practical application. The extreme application would be a rotor that spins, and produces more power than consumed. That would be OU. Stick one of these in your electric car and just drive across country until the next bathroom break. Stick one in your house and unplug from the grid.

The more likely practical application would be to replace the Ryobi motor with a wind turbine, hydro turbine, solar driven turbine, etc and produce more power than you would with a normal generator head. Not OU but if you can increase the power out without increasing overall drag then the you can produce more power at lower wind speeds or lower water speeds, etc.

Lots of real world economic rattling possibilities if it was OU that I am sure would frighten everyone if you really looked at the ramifications. Lets say you put one in your car and drove all year without having to buying gas. Great for you but not so great for your countries economy. Get enough people doing this and the tax collected for road improvements drops to the point where the roads can not be maintained. Not only that but the only reason to stop at a gas station would be to buy a slurpy so a lot of gas stations would close. More people unemployed. Less taxes collected. Roads falling apart. Not good for an industrialized country. Chaos takes over. You can apply this same logic to home power generation. No need to run power lines so no sales of power line wire. No linemen needed to fix the power lines. No power substations. No fossil fueled generators so no more coal mining or oil drilling. No taxes for the sale of energy or the construction of equipment needed for energy generation. No taxes on the people supporting the energy infrastructure. Once again Chaos takes over.

So what do you think any government faced with massive unemployment and less taxes because someone created a OU system would do ? Embrace it ??  Accept it Yeah.. Right...

Me. I would just power my house and my car and keep my mouth mostly shut. Make it look like my house is being powered by the wind. Maybe release the information on the internet for free so others can do the same thing. At least give people a lot of hints so they can figure it out. A small revolution but if it gets too big than chaos kicks in and anarchy follows.