Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[Steven Dufresne]

Here's another email from Thane to Luc. I'll give Luc a break and post it myself. I think the diagram he's refering to is Vince's, since I haven't posted any. Being unable to download it, I can't confirm that. Regarding the visit to Thane's, if you guys have any questions, post them.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org

Dear Luc,

Your guys have it all wrong.
Steve's diagram will never work.

You have to use the primary to supply magnetizing current to the secondaries and then rely on the secondaries themselves to "self regulate" the load voltage without the help of the primary drawing additinal supply current.

You have to be able capture all the available flux and not let it escape down exterior flux paths. This was the premise on our original ?Flux Variable Tri-Coil Generator? that we worked on with UVA but you don?t want to do it with a transformer.

The primary and secondary relative permeabilities numbers are there for computer modeling purposes ONLY. You can plug any number in a computer almost.

Your guys also need to have a wattmeter on hand so they can watch the power factor and read true watts.

I have made about 50 ? 100 transformer prototypes like the ones you guys are doing and I deduced that I need to rely on a very high secondary relative permeability to give the flux multiplication required to maintain power across the load.

I think you should come over and I can give you a tour of my current samples and get some photos etc which will really help and reduce your guys frustration levels.

I am also wondering if that's not a LONG STATOR LINEAR MOTOR in that fan photo as opposed to a Toroid?

Cheers
Thane

[Steven Dufresne]

Larry,
Here's a photo of the core ground down. Touching it with a meter, touching the probes pretty much anywhere, including on the same surface, opposite surfaces, outer edge and a surface, I get fraction of an ohm or signel digit ohm resistance. Is that right? Note that I still have about half the circumference of aluminium to grind off one surface.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org

[vince]

Hi Gyula;

Thanks for helping me with the measurements. Here is what I found:

Primary coil resistance 8.8 ohms
Secondary coil resistance (originally the primary of the mains) 24.5 ohms
Secondary coil resistance(originally the secondary of the mains) 1.1 ohms

With my clamp meter I checked the output of the secondary coil and found these results:

With 12 volt bulb attached .8 amps, 0 volts (Bulb would not light)
With 45K resistor .8 amps, 56.9 volts
With 4.6K resistor .8 amps, 26 volts
With Neon bulb attached .8 amps, 0 volts( Bulb would flash if I momentarily touched the second output wires together)

You are right about the 1.2 amps being high but I did notice that when I first tested this coil setup it was originally at about .3 amps then it later went to 1.3 and stayed there.

I did try hooking up the power to the original primary on the Main transformer and what I found was that the primary input current was
0 amps ( My meter did not detect anything) and my new secondary (Outer leg) was approximately 1 volts. The secondary on my Mains transformer showed 12.3 volts.  When I shorted out the new secondary it did not change the current reading but when I shorted out the secondary on my mains the current jumped to 4.3 amps! 

I no electrical whiz but it sure looks like current draw does not increase if a load is taken on the opposite path or leg of my transformer.

Your thoughts are greatly appreciated

Vince

[gotoluc]

Hi all,

a few more items to post. One was a request by johnnyl to see the request from NASA which I copied the body of email and pasted below (in blue). This email was sent to Dr. Riadh Habash, PhD, P.Eng. who is the head of the School of Information Technology and Engineering (SITE) at Ottawa University where Thane Heins is presently demonstration his generator.


The other item is a word doc. attached below named (Dear Luc #2) sent by Thane to help replicators.

More to come, stay tuned

Luc


---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: re: previous phonecall
From: "Erik Clark"
Date: Tue, February 12, 2008 8:48 am
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Riadh,
I had contacted you this previous Saturday about trying to procure an abstract on the work you are doing with Thane Heins. The magnetics lab here at Goddard expressed some interest in having you come down to do a colloquium, but would like to get an abstract on the work done so far before moving ahead. Let me know when you could provide this, so we can look at posibilities moving forward.

--
Erik Clark
NASA-Goddard Space Flight Center
Bldg 18 Room 200 Mailstop 730.0
Greenbelt, MD 20771

[LarryC]

Larry,
Here's a photo of the core ground down. Touching it with a meter, touching the probes pretty much anywhere, including on the same surface, opposite surfaces, outer edge and a surface, I get fraction of an ohm or signel digit ohm resistance. Is that right? Note that I still have about half the circumference of aluminium to grind off one surface.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org

Steve,

Good work.

From the picture it appears that the thin slanted lines turn into small circles. Is that correct? This is using up more lamination then I thought, but you should still have enought lamination to generate the effect.

Yes, the resistance should be low as the thin slanted lines allow electrical flow from one level of the laminated steel to another. The removal of the large aluminium bar at the top and bottom will stop the flow from forming a circle which creates a large magnetic field between two thin slanted lines. It was the path of least resistance,  but with the large aluminium bars removed any eddy current generated should only short across the closest laminated steel or rotate within the small aluminium circles. If it does cause a problem the small aluminium circles will need to be drilled out, mainly at the point where the primary bar meets the toroid.

Regards, Larry