Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[markzpeiverson]

Is it possible that that magnetic effect creates an effect similar to a maglev, and thereby removes almost all friction load (losses) from the system?

JS:
Now that's an interesting question, and actually contributes to this forum's knowledge base!  Bravo...

Be interested in hearing some discussion on this possibility...

For a MagLev effect, there must be opposing magnetic fields (like poles repel).  My guess is that the shaft/bearing arrangement is not conducive to forming opposing magnetic poles adjacent to each other... hmmm, or is it?  We know that if we take a bar magnet and break it in two, we get two magnets, but the poles at the break will be opposite (one N and one S), and therefore attracting.  Could the mag-flux from the motor shaft be opposing mag-flux from generator backemf, causing opposing (like poles) mag-fields at any metallic interface (ball bearings-to-bearing-inner-and-outer-races, or at shaft joints)?

-Mark

[innovation_station]

 


im outta here

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[aether22]

A possible alternative sollution to #5 (bare in mind I am not a scientist, but I am throwing this out as a possibility for actual discussion - it may be contrary to rule 12532 of the great book of science, but here goes...)

5: Since you believe that the generator load has decreased rather than the motor becoming more powerful, and given that the first video shows load increasing on coil shorting and since the only change in the 2nd vid is that the shaft is all steel can you explain how this steel shaft can dramatically reduce losses in the generator?

Is it possible that that magnetic effect creates an effect similar to a maglev, and thereby removes almost all friction load (losses) from the system?

No, frictional losses are tiny (not counting wind).
And there is no way that could create a maglev situation, not only is there no way for it to happen and bearing are to tight to allow such but it would be like claiming 'Officer, I didn't knock my wife so hard her head came off, she was bending over the dog just as a (tiny normal) flea jumped up and it hit her"  in other words it is beyond ridiculous

[aether22]

You completely misread the emotion... it's utter frustration!
The only reason I chose to add my $.02 is also frustration...

If you and jacksatan and any others still do not understand that the only thing that seems to make a difference is whether there is a solid steel shaft connecting motor to generator, or a 3" air gap, then no amount of explaining is going to help you understand that fact.

-Mark

Firstly, I was not reading any emotion, secondly I have more than a fair understanding of magnetic flux/paths, thirdly, my post was not aimed at you.

WTF, are you telling me that you have not detected frustration from me!

Fuckeddy fuck fuck fuck.  sorry, but Fuck!

Did that clear anything up?

[aether22]

Are demands and ego something inherent to free energy groupies? 

You completely misread the emotion... it's utter frustration!
The only reason I chose to add my $.02 is also frustration...

If you and jacksatan and any others still do not understand that the only thing that seems to make a difference is whether there is a solid steel shaft connecting motor to generator, or a 3" air gap, then no amount of explaining is going to help you understand that fact.

The importance of a continuous ferromagnetic path from generator to motor IS THE ONLY THING THAT RESULTS IN UNUSUAL BEHAVIOR.  With a non-continuous path (i.e., two separate shafts separated by significant air gap), the system behaves as expected, and comes to a stop when coils are shorted due to the drag caused by the loaded generator.  The single significant fact of the continuous path has been what Thane points out NUMEROUS times in his vids and his contributions in this forum.  Perhaps its your lack of solid science/engineering background that prevents you from grasping the SIGNIFICANCE of this single variation of the system.

I too would like to see answers to the 5 questions that Aether22 listed... perhaps then we'll have some indication that you understand precisely what is novel and exciting about this system!

-Mark

I don't understand the  frustration .

Mr Satan  has clearly  stated  that he  does not  believe in OU  and  he clearly has no intention of ever believing in OU .

My opinion  from the  fist post of his that I read was that he came here  just to argue.

WIth  people that just want to argue  you  can  drop a  truckload of truth on them and they  will comment only  on the one  or 2 points that they find  inconsistent . 

If   you enjoy  the  art of arguing   by all means  please continue .

If  you   are actually  trying  to  make a point .......you might as well save your energy  for someone that is open minded  enough to accept  your  point.  .



gary

Somehow they get me to reply, in part I fear that unanswered they may convince some people, hopefully things have been covered enough to make that unlikely.

And it seems that though Jack is skilled in the art of self deception (believing that as you say a subjective inconsistency is more solid that proof) he is compared to the others an open mind and not seemingly out to disprove it.

I think the arguing can end here, I've got more building to do.
Just acquired a ramset masonry anchor as recommended by hoptoad for the cores, and as I went to get it guess who is right next door to my Mitre10? The previous location of the Ramset factory and present location of their wharehouse!  What are the chances!
I am going to visit their (nearby) factory to see if I can just buy the piece I want.
Sadly though it seems their current design is slightly less optimal than when hoptoad was buying them. (short sleeve in 2 pieces)