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Peter Davey Heater

Started by storre, February 09, 2008, 11:00:32 AM

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storre

Sandy, did you see the picture where he is shown holding a bell and playing a G on a piano. A G would also correspond to an octave harmonic of 50Hz. I think there is a connection between mains frequency and audio frequency. Is it possible, especially if the bell naturally vibrates at at a doubling of the frequency? 100Hz, 200Hz, 400Hz etc.?

NewAge

Quote from: nul-points on June 04, 2008, 03:45:44 AM
]in the news video, Davey admits he's holding something back

what? he using radioactive bicycle bells?!  ;)

no, i don't think it matters if he uses bells or his dog's food tins - the important feature is that they're LOOSE (see how many times its mentioned in the Patent)
There is a strong possibility that this simple heating toy is a key to Stan Mayer super-efficient electrolizer.
See http://merlib.org/files/pgfed/D14.pdf page 11:
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nul-points

hi Storre

yes, i did see that pic - i believe that Davey, as a sax player, knows well that a 'bell' tuned to the pitch of 'G' is a close harmonic of 50Hz (in the same way that i, as a bass player know that the frequency of my low-E string is around 41 or 42 Hz)

however, having seen all the evidence (the patent, the various accounts Davey has given to different people, his claim to have purposefully witheld some info in his accounts, etc) i think Davey either believes in his own mind - or wants the public to believe (because, at 92, he's still hoping someone will buy into his invention) - that by acoustically tuning one of the 'bells' (and it's made clear in accounts that it's only one) to the mains freq. then this is an important part of the device's operation

i think it's either an intentional (for 'commercial' reasons, not with malice), or an unintentional, half-truth - somehow the vibration IS important - just not in the way he's describing it

the only piece of information he hasn't disclosed in any public interviews is clearly shown in the Patent to be a physical looseness of all electrodes apart from the central rod & the outer earthing tube

the Patent is clear that any number of electrodes are suitable - no mention whatsoever about important dimension relationships - other than varying the gap to change the heating produced - and in any case, using a number of concentric tubes all the same length will produce an arbitrary range of natural frequencies - they're loose - yes, they could possibly be vibrated by the mains - but it's not likely they're all tuned to it

it's just as possible that any vibration, which may or may not be important to the whole operation, is caused by the vigourous activity of the steam/water boiling

in addition, i believe that the outer earthing-sphere shown on his later hand-held boilers, which we see in action in the video & photos, are formed by two half-spheres welded (or soft-soldered, perhaps) together

i believe this would be a difficult (but not impossible) job to do around two inner concentric 'bells' and therefore i suspect that on these later models he may have reverted to a central rod for the 'live' electrode, a LOOSELY attached tube for the middle 'Neutral' electrode, all enclosed by the protective earthed-sphere which doubles as a 'jacket' to contain the heating water temporarily to improve efficiency until it's expelled by expansion & steam pressure


i was interested to find, just now on Google, a link to a company, called Davey, in Australia that makes industrial & consumer water-related products - including a Spa/Pool heater. coincidence? i don't know

http://www.davey.com.au/products/product_image_check.aspx?id=223&catid=241&app=Pool+and+Spa

they say they've been in business for 70 years (from about the time, or just before, that Peter Davey would have gone off to the UK to be a Spitfire pilot) - interesting!

aha! they have a Spa/Pool water heater ... does that ring any 'bells'?  :)

unfortunately not - its gas powered!

so, if, possibly, Davey is related to that business - and he's known about a working electric water heater since the 40's (and an undeniably efficient one at that) - why use gas?!


i say:
- build one
- use 'bells'/cones/tubes, whatever
- leave one or more internal electrodes loose
- don't bother about acoustic tuning
- adjust the electrode gap for suitable heat/current ratio
- get some results
- vary the gap
- check if it appears to be tunable towards OU
- tighten the loose electrode(s)
- retest
- compare
- report back

throw me another tinny & fire up the Barbi - i'm done  ;D

g'day mates
sandy

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Sprocket

Quote from: nul-points on June 04, 2008, 09:02:35 AM.....
however, having seen all the evidence (the patent, the various accounts Davey has given to different people, his claim to have purposefully witheld some info in his accounts, etc) i think Davey either believes in his own mind - or wants the public to believe (because, at 92, he's still hoping someone will buy into his invention) - that by acoustically tuning one of the 'bells' (and it's made clear in accounts that it's only one) to the mains freq. then this is an important part of the device's operation.....

This would seem at odds with what Dr. Jan Pajak says on his site - it would appear that things didn't end well for Mr. Davey, enless someone has information to the contrary...

Quote..... In 1998 I returned to New Zealand from my bread-seeking globetrotting. Of course, each time I managed to visit Christchurch I attempted to also contact Mr Davey. But in the place where his home stood previously, I found only a large pile of broken wooden planks mixed with broken bricks. It looked as if several heavy tanks rolled through his home. In turn no even a trace of him. I also was unable to locate anyone, who would know what actually happened to him. In turn after 1999, as I explained this in subsection A4 of monograph [1/4], it has not been in my fate to let me go to Christchurch again. By now the Davey's telekinetic heater is completely forgotten in New Zealand. It was no any help to it, that the energy efficiency of this heater was proven at the miraculous level of many times above 100%. In turn the fate of the inventor himself remains unknown to me â€" if anyone out there is aware what happened to him, please let me know. When I talked to Mr Davey the last time, I promised him to publish the description of his heater and the story of his lifetime battles, so that perhaps someone else picks up his fight and puts this miraculous heater into mass production. In this way his almost 50 years of suffering and his brilliant invention would not be wasted, and would start to work for the good of our civilisation. This web page is my fulfilment of that old promise.

nul-points

hi Sprocket

so i guess you haven't watched the more recent NZ news video where they visited him in his home and he demonstrated his handheld 'boiler'? or read the web copy of the NZ paper article with recent photos of him, aged 92?

i seem to remember reading he was born 1916 - if so, that would place the NZ paper article this year

i also seem to remember reading a 'follow-up' to those accounts you've just quoted where the Polish gentleman explained that 'Powers of Evil' had since then travelled back in time and rebuilt Davey's house

i don't know what they drink in Poland but i'm going to get myself a couple of bottles for New Year!

be well, friends
sandy
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"To be is to do"  ---  Jean Paul Sarte;
"Do be do be do" ---  F. Sinatra