Peter Davey Heater

[devrimogun]

I'm still here and reading all the new information I live in a very remote location so even getting metal is a slow process. I found a friend that works at a machine shop and on his spare time he is going to help me get and possibly shape the materials like the bells. Wish I lived closer to civilization to take a more active part in this work but then again I wouldn't want to deal with the rest that goes on with tightly packed groups of people stressing out to survive

Regarding the recent postings and also the you tube video where he keeps saying on off on off. Of course we don't know what the temp was before he said on I have a brute force boiler here that I yanked from an electric shower head and it will do the same thing and I'm only use 126v and neutral.

The vibrating electrodes seems a very possible solution but I will try it first with them fixed and spend most of my time adjusting the distance between the 2 bells which is what I think is critical.

About the spherical casing. I did see pictures with just 2 bells but I think at one point he needed to add a safety ground so put a grounded sphere AROUND the 2 bells. Since we can't see what is inside the spherical housing then we can't assume it's only one bell inside.

I hope my stainless steel and brass arrives soon so I can take a more active part in this work

Unfortunately I am unable to access youtube for about a month now
as it has been banned by court order because of some videos
that insulted Ataturk. So until they are removed we are out of youtube here.

My problem that kept me from starting an experiment of my own
was that bike bells are flat when compared to these semi spherical
bells and I did not know where to find such spherical bells.

Some people were leaving for India and so I ordered some singing bells
although they would be probably too big. Then last night I finally got
a good idea from the curved handle that Davey was using. It could be a
part of a chandelier! Then it downed on me, chandeliers from the 80s
had semi spherical metal housing that secured the glass head.

The only problem could be the material of these as they could be made out of
some cheap alloy with poor electrical properties.

[Nihilanth]

I thought AC was used because it's supposed to be the same frequency as the hemispheres' mechanical resonance, then wouldn't using DC to split the water probably work better if it were pulsed at the same frequency?

[Sprocket]

Using DC should just result in electrolysis.

[edelind]

He also notes that in his opinion his setup uses the same amount of energy to heat the water as a kettle, which is not what we want to hear - though to get practically instantaneous boiling like we see would take serious current imo, more than is 'apparently' being used...

In my tests I also get the same amount of bubbles. But this is misleading, as the bubbles came from the (little amount of) vaporised water between the 2 bells, not from all the water. As I found out by experience, bubbles does not mean much, as the device does not heat ALL the water at once (with brute-force). This means that we get the same amount of bubbles from brute-force heaters too (with no resonance), but with an inefficient amount of amperage.

As Thrapp also mentioned (here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZxnEQssJ4FQ ), the heating at resonance (i.e. by the intense vibration of the bell/sphere) will show no bubbles at all, only smooth heating.

So, IMHO, bubbles = inefficient heating. I also think that even Davey used both ways too heat water (resonance AND brute-force) unlike Thrapp, which used only resonance (with as little as 12V and 0.18 A).

Also, in Davey's device it's easy to figure out when your device resonates (I mean in water), as you can feel the vibration in your hand (do not touch the metal, only the handle!).

Another idea (which should be tested) is this:
Even the inner bell is excited with the mains frequency (50/60Hz), it will vibrate at HIS own frequency. So the smaller the bell, the harder to be excited (more distance between his frequency and the mains), BUT the higher his vibrating frequency, which may agitate the water more rapidly, maybe leading to a faster heating. I think this is why Davey uses SMALL bells, not big ones.

In Thrapp design the situation is different, as he (maybe) uses the exact frequency of the sphere to excite, so the enrgy is bigger (being on its fundamental).

[NerzhDishual]

Hi Guys,

As I received no 'warning email', sort of:
"A reply has been posted to a topic you are watching by xxx"
I thought this thread was almost dead.... I should had wrongly clicked somewhere
a couple of days ago... So, I vanished... Now, I'm back, and lost! 

I have not the time, this evening, to read all the posts I missed.
But I will read them.

As I can see the very bass player  'Sandy' alias 'Dr Ringwood' alias 'Nul_Points' have not lost
his English sense of humor.. Why should he have? 

@Devrim:
Please ask me about any youtube vid you are interested it.
I can download it and upload it on my website.
http://keepvid.com/ is very usefull....
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Just for the fun of it, a new page: http://freenrg.info/The_Mess_4OU/

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