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Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

Started by couldbe, February 20, 2008, 08:45:25 AM

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Omnibus

Quote from: sm0ky2 on February 29, 2008, 04:20:00 AM
Quote from: Omnibus on February 29, 2008, 02:17:05 AM
Quote from: sm0ky2 on February 29, 2008, 01:37:25 AM
@SMOT-ientists

The SMOT requires energy "input" at both ends.

1) to lift the ball and place it into position for SMOTing
and
2) to remove the ball FROM the other end of the SMOT

This Energy is NOT overcome after applying a gravitational field to remove the ball.
You must STILL input MORE energy into the system to LIFT the ball back up against that same gravitational field, to get the ball to where it started.

SMOT = not CoE.



Of course, this is ridiculous. It's not worth even commenting on. You haven't understood what SMOT is.

so where is your working, closed-loop smot video?? post it in the SMOT thread, so we can all see this "proven CoE"

or is YOUR smot, not "built properly"..? perhaps your superimposed field isn't quite "adjusted" correctly, to raise the ball back up to the original height?


I already gave you the link to the closed A-B-C-A magnetic propagator video, several posts back, which suits this discussion even better than SMOT.

Lakes

Quote from: Paul-R on February 29, 2008, 10:09:11 AM
Quote from: Rusty_Springs on February 28, 2008, 10:44:58 PM
Hi All
I added one more movie with the same setup as the Trigate Smot experiment showing what happens with out the second Trigate you can find the video at the file section of Erics Minato Group the name of the file is TriGateWithOutSecond.wmv.
Tanke Care all
Graham
no such group. You will mean minatowheel, Graham? i.e.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/minatowheel/
Any chance this could be put on Youtube for easier access please?


Omnibus

Quote from: klicUK on February 29, 2008, 11:12:18 AM
@Omnibus:

Here are the links to my videos on YouTube.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Euc_sHVq4Y0

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ce4KkyZMvXI

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YeN9c2XiGeE


Excellent research. Thanks very much for sharing it. Now, what's the shielding material, I didn't catch? As already discussed, the problem is the spontaneous overcoming of the barrier prior to the initial neutral spot. That's somehow the opposite problem SMOT has. The  shielding you're exploring really brings hope that said barrier can be overcome. Will be waiting with great interest to see if bringing the roller back to the input, properly shielded, would allow it to reach beyond the neutral point.

klicUK

Quote from: Omnibus on February 29, 2008, 11:28:50 AM
Quote from: klicUK on February 29, 2008, 11:12:18 AM
@Omnibus:

Here are the links to my videos on YouTube.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Euc_sHVq4Y0

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ce4KkyZMvXI

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YeN9c2XiGeE


Excellent research. Thanks very much for sharing it. Now, what's the shielding material, I didn't catch? As already discussed, the problem is the spontaneous overcoming of the barrier prior to the initial neutral spot. That's somehow the opposite problem SMOT has. The  shielding you're exploring really brings hope that said barrier can be overcome. Will be waiting with great interest to see if bringing the roller back to the input, properly shielded, would allow it to reach beyond the neutral point.

@Omnibus:

The shielding is called GIRON. Apparently it is "anisotropic" which means "...permeability is not the same in all directions. Permeability along the long axis are excellent, across the long axis are good and perpendicular to the surface it is slight. Thus the magnetic shielding effect can be turned on/off by merely rotating the orientation of the shield..." according to the write up. In practice I haven't really noticed any difference between this and standard Nickel Mu metal.

I'm in the middle of two sets of experiments with this gate. With regard to the shielded stack, I will be setting up a line of shielded gates to observe if the rollers escape distance increases through each gate. The conjecture at this point being that entry to each successive gate may have progressively more kinetic energy. If this is the case then building a ramp and closing the loop in a SMOT type setup should be a realistic possibility.

KLiCuk