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Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

Started by couldbe, February 20, 2008, 08:45:25 AM

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Omnibus

Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 06, 2008, 03:30:16 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on March 06, 2008, 03:22:04 PM
This is ridiculous, magnetic potential energy does not decrease with distance from the magnet despite the fact that the force does. You are confusing force with energy. Hate to say it but you need to refresh some basic physics,

Then show me the equation you use to calculate the Magnetic Potential Energy between two points along the distance of the field. - that is independent of Force.

I dont think you understand what energy is.

Magnetic potential energy is in fact a definite integral of force times distance. Write the integral from point A, away from the surface, to point B at the surface for a decreasing force and compare it with the integral from a point A' closer to the surface to the point B at the surface and you'll immediately understand what I mean and where you error is.

sm0ky2

Quote from: Omnibus on March 06, 2008, 03:34:59 PM
Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 06, 2008, 03:30:16 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on March 06, 2008, 03:22:04 PM
This is ridiculous, magnetic potential energy does not decrease with distance from the magnet despite the fact that the force does. You are confusing force with energy. Hate to say it but you need to refresh some basic physics,

Then show me the equation you use to calculate the Magnetic Potential Energy between two points along the distance of the field. - that is independent of Force.

I dont think you understand what energy is.

Magnetic potential energy is in fact a definite integral of force times distance. Write the integral from point A, away from the surface, to point B at the surface for a decreasing force and compare it with the integral from a point A' closer to the surface to the point B at the surface and you'll immediately understand what I mean and where you error is.

and you are leading people to believe that the integral of a force, that decreases with distance, remains constant with distance? Who taught you calculus?
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

Omnibus

Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 06, 2008, 03:39:14 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on March 06, 2008, 03:34:59 PM
Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 06, 2008, 03:30:16 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on March 06, 2008, 03:22:04 PM
This is ridiculous, magnetic potential energy does not decrease with distance from the magnet despite the fact that the force does. You are confusing force with energy. Hate to say it but you need to refresh some basic physics,

Then show me the equation you use to calculate the Magnetic Potential Energy between two points along the distance of the field. - that is independent of Force.

I dont think you understand what energy is.

Magnetic potential energy is in fact a definite integral of force times distance. Write the integral from point A, away from the surface, to point B at the surface for a decreasing force and compare it with the integral from a point A' closer to the surface to the point B at the surface and you'll immediately understand what I mean and where you error is.

and you are leading people to believe that the integral of a force, that decreases with distance, remains constant with distance? Who taught you calculus?

Doesn't remain constant. Who told you it remains constant? Give it some more thought.

sm0ky2

Quote from: Omnibus on March 06, 2008, 03:41:32 PM
Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 06, 2008, 03:39:14 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on March 06, 2008, 03:34:59 PM
Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 06, 2008, 03:30:16 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on March 06, 2008, 03:22:04 PM
This is ridiculous, magnetic potential energy does not decrease with distance from the magnet despite the fact that the force does. You are confusing force with energy. Hate to say it but you need to refresh some basic physics,

Then show me the equation you use to calculate the Magnetic Potential Energy between two points along the distance of the field. - that is independent of Force.

I dont think you understand what energy is.

Magnetic potential energy is in fact a definite integral of force times distance. Write the integral from point A, away from the surface, to point B at the surface for a decreasing force and compare it with the integral from a point A' closer to the surface to the point B at the surface and you'll immediately understand what I mean and where you error is.

and you are leading people to believe that the integral of a force, that decreases with distance, remains constant with distance? Who taught you calculus?

Doesn't remain constant. Who told you it remains constant? Give it some more thought.

ok, well you didnt exactly come out and say that it remains constant, but you addimantly refuse to accpt that it decreases.. What then are you suggesting? that the magnetic potential energy INCREASES with distance outside of the field influence?

and if so, How can this be demonstrated? and why does it not affect the gravitational constant?
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

Omnibus

Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 06, 2008, 03:47:23 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on March 06, 2008, 03:41:32 PM
Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 06, 2008, 03:39:14 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on March 06, 2008, 03:34:59 PM
Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 06, 2008, 03:30:16 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on March 06, 2008, 03:22:04 PM
This is ridiculous, magnetic potential energy does not decrease with distance from the magnet despite the fact that the force does. You are confusing force with energy. Hate to say it but you need to refresh some basic physics,

Then show me the equation you use to calculate the Magnetic Potential Energy between two points along the distance of the field. - that is independent of Force.

I dont think you understand what energy is.

Magnetic potential energy is in fact a definite integral of force times distance. Write the integral from point A, away from the surface, to point B at the surface for a decreasing force and compare it with the integral from a point A' closer to the surface to the point B at the surface and you'll immediately understand what I mean and where you error is.

and you are leading people to believe that the integral of a force, that decreases with distance, remains constant with distance? Who taught you calculus?

Doesn't remain constant. Who told you it remains constant? Give it some more thought.

ok, well you didnt exactly come out and say that it remains constant, but you addimantly refuse to accpt that it decreases.. What then are you suggesting? that the magnetic potential energy INCREASES with distance outside of the field influence?

and if so, How can this be demonstrated? and why does it not affect the gravitational constant?

How come it decreases? Think again and don't waste more time. I want you to say loud and clear that you were wrong and now you understand that magnetic potential energy increases with distance despite the fact that the force decreases. I want to hear it from you.

I won't allow anyone to play these games and get away without admitting elementary errors he makes. It's not a crime to make mistakes, everyone makes them. It's wrong to try to conceal your errors and try to make it appear as if you've never made them. This is a game @alsetalokin is playing and he has to be held accountable for it.