Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

[Omnibus]

@smOky2,

Read carefully what I write. I said you're confusing energy with force and I'm not objecting to the fact that the force decreases with distance.

Your confusion about force and energy stands in the way of proper understanding of the issues at hand.

im not confusing force with energy. -  i dont think you are understanding the process of determining the two values, and therefore are percieving some confusion on my behalf, which is simply not true.


repulsion force is overcome by the input energy (i.e. gravitational potential converted to kenetic energy over a distance) with a FORCE of  -9.81 m/s/s  which, equates to a momentum (v*m) at the time it hits the repulsion force. If this energy is greater than the energy value i described in the above equations (which is a function of the force of the repulsion field over the distance/time, at the vector angle of the ramp) then the roller will pass through the repulsion field and INTO the gate.  This is not a complicated process.  There is no force/energy confusion here.

quit trying to smear the issue.

This is not where you're confused. You're confused when asserting that the potential (energy) decreases with distance.

As for the above explanation, how does it prove violation of CoE?

[Tinker]

Omnibus

Where did he close the loop?

PAY ATTENTION

ATTRACTION OR REPULSHION

ITS JUST THAT SIMPLE

I HAVE NO OBLIGATION TO OFFER YOU PROFF

Tinker

[Omnibus]

Omnibus

Where did he close the loop?

PAY ATTENTION

ATTRACTION OR REPULSHION

ITS JUST THAT SIMPLE

I HAVE NO OBLIGATION TO OFFER YOU PROFF

Tinker

This is a conversation. When you claim something you have to prove it. Otherwise it will fade away unnoticed. It's not a matter of obligation. It's for your own benefit to clarify the issue. At the area where the loop has to be closed the rotor feels repulsion. So, what's your point?

[sm0ky2]

@smOky2,

Read carefully what I write. I said you're confusing energy with force and I'm not objecting to the fact that the force decreases with distance.

Your confusion about force and energy stands in the way of proper understanding of the issues at hand.

im not confusing force with energy. -  i dont think you are understanding the process of determining the two values, and therefore are percieving some confusion on my behalf, which is simply not true.


repulsion force is overcome by the input energy (i.e. gravitational potential converted to kenetic energy over a distance) with a FORCE of  -9.81 m/s/s  which, equates to a momentum (v*m) at the time it hits the repulsion force. If this energy is greater than the energy value i described in the above equations (which is a function of the force of the repulsion field over the distance/time, at the vector angle of the ramp) then the roller will pass through the repulsion field and INTO the gate.  This is not a complicated process.  There is no force/energy confusion here.

quit trying to smear the issue.

This is not where you're confused. You're confused when asserting that the potential (energy) decreases with distance.

As for the above explanation, how does it prove violation of CoE?

Look,.    at distance X - which is OUTSIDE of the field of magnetic influence - there is not magnetic potential capable of altering the course of the roller IN ANY WAY. until it gets CLOSE ENOUGH for the field to be strong enough to affect it.

AT THIS POINT - the magnetic potential energy begins - and continues through to the other side of the repulsion field.  PRIOR to this point there IS NOT magnetic potential with respect to the two magnets. they are TOO FAR APART TO AFFECT ONE ANOTHER.  the experiment mentioned proves this by the fact that the gravitational constant - remains constant at that distance from the field.

the Force decreases with distance - from this force - over the width of the repulsion zone composes the magnetic potential energy of that repulsion zone. While this value is a finite number, and remains constant - within the particular gate structure - there is a DISTANCE at which the force is no longer prevelant - thus the magnetic potential approaches 0 at this point.

the magnetic potential through the repulsion zone remains constant - that is a given we cant be at a distance from it and still be inside of it.  We are talking about the area OUTSIDE of the influence field. - The area which your Gravitational Potential Energy is input AND extracted from.
entirely independent of the gate.

i think you have some conceptual error here, but you have not been explicit enough for me to determine what exactly that is,. re-read my posts, i have included everything you need to know to verify this CoE.

[Omnibus]

the Force decreases with distance - from this force - over the width of the repulsion zone composes the magnetic potential energy of that repulsion zone. While this value is a finite number, and remains constant - within the particular gate structure - there is a DISTANCE at which the force is no longer prevelant - thus the magnetic potential approaches 0 at this point.

This is incorrect and proves again you don't understand the matter and are confusing force with energy as I suspected. As I told you before, it isn't true that because there is a distance at which the force is no longer prevalent the magnetic potential approaches 0 at this point.