Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

[sm0ky2]

@ Yada -

                I used a couple pieces of metal i had laying around.  i dont think it matters what you use, though im sure theres a shape or two that might work better. basically it dampens the field comming off the wing magnets,
Clanzer used the steel balls on his.
the first video had two black rectangle pieces.

mine are kind of square-triangle shaped, they were corner pieces from something dismantled.

My magnets the "square" goes around N->S->N->S->N->S   

the pyramids are all N on top,  and all S on bottom.

standard Tri-Force above (double-N-pole facing down)   

sorry about the lighting, the only thing i had to stick that to was the garage door, and the light sucks over there....

i couldnt get it to balance on a stick like the others...
it kept wanting to tip sideways

sm0ky2,

Thanks for the description.  There are over 131,000 combinations to play with, but at least we're off to a start.

Note that your configuration appears to be quite different from CLaNZeR's and the one I'm playing with.  I'll create a drawing, but in the meantime look very closely at the arrangement of equatorial magnets in CLaNZeR's design.  Then, look closely at the bottom half of the octahedral.

Cheers

Yada..
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The differences i see here, between the polarities are:

a) my equatorial magnets are not reversed "MPMM-sytle"
and
b) the bottom of mine are S instead of N

ive tried both configurations and theres only one major operational difference - caused by the equatorial magnets - theres a rythem like "tic-tic-tic" pushing it along, whereas in the non-MPMM-style its a smoother motion.

i cant find an arrangement that allows more than one of these to work together, so  aside from the peculiar amazement of dangling octahedrons, theres nothing really spectacular here. just another interesting magnetic oddity.

If i could get them to cooperate in spinning each other, the implications would be astounding. but so far i've come up with nothing.

[Omnibus]

@smOky2,

Wait a sec now. Explain what you?ve really done.  Why do you say that:

the peculiar amazement of dangling octahedrons, theres nothing really spectacular here. just another interesting magnetic oddity.

Should one understand from the above that you?ve given it initial push before watching it spin for a while? If that?s the case there?s nothing in it indeed. I wonder if that?s the case in the original video as well?

[Omnibus]

I need to comment on that too:

I offered to give an independent peer review of his SMOT theory, but unfortunately Omnibus was unable to produce the so-called "work" he claims to have done in this area.  My personal experience with various SMOT designs was quite the contrary of CoE. i would love to see one that actually did what he claims it does.

You cannot be an independent peer-reviewer because, as was determined, you have some basic confusion regarding force and energy which you couldn't avoid despite the various ways and finagling you applied in trying to escape when you were nailed down. Besides, this isn't a medium for a peer-review because the credentials and affiliations of the potential peer-reviewers aren't known, although there are indirect indications regarding the expertise, as in the above case.

[HopeForHumanity]

I need to comment on that too:

I offered to give an independent peer review of his SMOT theory, but unfortunately Omnibus was unable to produce the so-called "work" he claims to have done in this area.  My personal experience with various SMOT designs was quite the contrary of CoE. i would love to see one that actually did what he claims it does.

You cannot be an independent peer-reviewer because, as was determined, you have some basic confusion regarding force and energy which you couldn't avoid despite the various ways and finagling you applied in trying to escape when you were nailed down. Besides, this isn't a medium for a peer-review because the credentials and affiliations of the potential peer-reviewers aren't known, although there are indirect indications regarding the expertise, as in the above case.

Are you implying that you are superior to sm0ky2?

[Yadaraf]

sm0ky2,

Thanks for the description.  There are over 131,000 combinations to play with, but at least we're off to a start.

Note that your configuration appears to be quite different from CLaNZeR's and the one I'm playing with.  I'll create a drawing, but in the meantime look very closely at the arrangement of equatorial magnets in CLaNZeR's design.  Then, look closely at the bottom half of the octahedral.

Cheers

Yada..
.

The differences i see here, between the polarities are:

a) my equatorial magnets are not reversed "MPMM-sytle"
and
b) the bottom of mine are S instead of N

ive tried both configurations and theres only one major operational difference - caused by the equatorial magnets - theres a rythem like "tic-tic-tic" pushing it along, whereas in the non-MPMM-style its a smoother motion.

i cant find an arrangement that allows more than one of these to work together, so  aside from the peculiar amazement of dangling octahedrons, theres nothing really spectacular here. just another interesting magnetic oddity.

If i could get them to cooperate in spinning each other, the implications would be astounding. but so far i've come up with nothing.

sm0ky2,

Below is a crude pic of how I interpret CLaNZeR's octahedral spinner.  All sections are viewed from the top down.  He seems to have oriented the N-S along the diagonal of the middle square, although it's hard to tell from his video.

I've tried building my octahedral rotor like his, but mine keeps collapsing into the center as soon as I attach it to the TriForce stator.  I'm working with tiny neos and they really like each other.

Cheers

Yada..
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