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Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

Started by couldbe, February 20, 2008, 08:45:25 AM

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Yadaraf

Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 18, 2008, 10:47:01 PM
Also sometihng to think about, the back 2 corners of the Tri-Force (N and S respectively) shoot a flux stream about 3 feet away, and can effect set-ups where the gates come back passed one another, like in a loop attempt.
if you think of circle divided trilatterally, like a "peace sign", the bottom two legs being the bars adjoining at the ball.
the top line is the direction of the flux shooting out in a straight line.

sm0ky2,

Ditto on the flux streams.  When studying any of these devices under controlled conditions, place all unused magnets several feet away from the device under test (DUT).  DO NOT under estimate the influence of even a small neo that is one foot away -- or a nearby metal object, like a camera tripod or lamp.

Cheers :)

Yada..
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Omnibus

@Yadaraf,

Your conjecture that possible natural changes in the geophysical EM fields could lie at the basis of ostensible self-sustaining spin is plausible because such fields are not conservative. However, it still is only a conjecture in view of the fact that these fields are very weak and there's no mechanism offered to explain how such fields would couple with the fields of the permanent magnets of a pmm to produce quasi-self-sustaining effects. Let alone the fact that it will not be a true perpetuum mobile since there would be an energy source which the pmm would be tapping in. Recall that @Grimer is also trying to invoke somehow exotic external factors such as, what he calls, a 'gamma atmosphere'.

Rusty_Springs

Hi Omnibus
I showed videos of how to overcome the barrier comming in with out shielding and with shielding and for a loop with a small airgap you only have to overcome the barrier comming in across the airgap which I showed can be done, this doesn't mean it will work as a motor but I know the barrier can be overcome.
Take Care Omnibus
Graham

Omnibus

Quote from: Rusty_Springs on March 19, 2008, 12:30:00 AM
Hi Omnibus
I showed videos of how to overcome the barrier comming in with out shielding and with shielding and for a loop with a small airgap you only have to overcome the barrier comming in across the airgap which I showed can be done, this doesn't mean it will work as a motor but I know the barrier can be overcome.
Take Care Omnibus
Graham

You haven't shown, however, how the barrier is overcome, prior to the one you mention above.

Yadaraf

Quote from: Omnibus on March 18, 2008, 11:50:47 PM
@Yadaraf,

Your conjecture that possible natural changes in the geophysical EM fields could lie at the basis of ostensible self-sustaining spin is plausible because such fields are not conservative. However, it still is only a conjecture in view of the fact that these fields are very weak and there's no mechanism offered to explain how such fields would couple with the fields of the permanent magnets of a pmm to produce quasi-self-sustaining effects. Let alone the fact that it will not be a true perpetuum mobile since there would be an energy source which the pmm would be tapping in. Recall that @Grimer is also trying to invoke somehow exotic external factors such as, what he calls, a 'gamma atmosphere'.

Omni,

First, "hypothesis" is the proper term -- not conjecture.  My reasoning is tied to objective data, after all.  (I think you understand the difference.)

Steve Marks TPU as well as Bruce's TPU are presumably based on tapping into SR.  Mark's TPU is particularly interesting because it produced a frequency of 7.3 Hz and worked only in one orientation -- it stopped working when he turned it upside down.  This artifact might be due to the orthogonal magnetic field that results from the vertical electric field in the ionoshpere.

One problem with SR is that it is affected by diurnal, seasonal, and geographical variations.  I actually thought Al might have gotten lucky with his device, and that it might have worked only during the Fall night -- in Canada.   ;D

Grimer and I aren't the only ones considering SR, and I believe Harvey picked up on it in the very beginning.  I'm not sure where Bruce stands.  As far as I know, this is the only hypothesis supported by objective data -- albeit "sketchy."

Cheers :)

Yada..
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