Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

[sm0ky2]

Give me that missing acceleration and just sit back and watch.

one day when i have the equipment to do that i'll recreate it. (hardcore machine shop?)
but as it stands, with hand crafted wheels, and glue i cant hit that mark.
not enough load, boom / too much load - stop.


with something like these Tri-Force, thats not even an issue ; the magnetic force is so small compared to the masses in question, that it would probably have some degree of self-limiting as you mentioned above.  also the gates themselves have a limiting factor - slowing, speeding up, slowing, speeding up, throughout the gate array.
completely diferent scenerio.

[Tinker]

Update on the Sawtooth magnet configuration

2 NEO'S .and 3 steel balls connecting them with a 15in  long magnet array in attraction plus on one side and negative on the other similar to the SMOT. With a 15in wheel to allow a vertical wheel to enter  the magnet array forward of the sticky point negating the repulsion experienced when entering the static magnet array. Clasner has already shown us how to exit it.

WHAT Clasner has found works [exiting the field], What I have found works [Entering the array from above forward of the sticky point as long as it is in attraction it allows entrance to the magnet field without Repulsion.

My Original device had serious mechanical issues  but it worked as I posted earlier. But after I resolved these mechanical issues the wobble and the truing of the wheel,  my results became dismal based on my previous results I have gone from counting rotation in minutes to counting rotations of the wheel.

The magnet array looks something like this.


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                                                                                                               SIDE VIEW

The wheel follows the arc on the left, the rotor magnets enter the array on the flat side from above on the right side clockwise well inside the magnet array avoiding the sticky point at the beginning of the magnets, the magnets on the flat side extends about 4 inches beyond the centerline of the wheel,  the flat side is longer than shown above.

I took the wheel down to re-gauge the magnet spacing on the wheel I remembered AL's comments about a unbalanced wheel and thought it was a good idea so I set the wheel with 5 rotor magnets, it's still a good idea for a horizontal wheel but defying gravity on a vertical wheel didn't work out too well, that might be part of my problem DUH.

One other observation is that when I ran the wobbly wheel it seemed to work better than the bolted down later version maybe we need to think about providing some wiggle room to these things.

Accept reject or ignore.

Be Well
Tinker

''Everything will work if you let it"
MEATLOAF 

[sm0ky2]

"wiggle room"..... hmmm

we have touched on this previously, but perhaps it should be discussed some more.

the system needs room to move around, only when its not prefectly alligned
                gates/roller

if they are off, and the system cant move into allignment when it 'needs to', it will slow the wheel down, trying to allign itself.

they way i dealt with this - was to perfectly balance the wheel with magnets mounted on it.   then adjust the gates for a 'true spin'.
this allows you to have a solid wheel, without magnetic disruption.

[HopeForHumanity]

It's like a wave motion. The problem with having no "wiggle room" is that we would have to set everything up perfectly to match the magnetic strength, spacing, motion, and speed. But if we give it wiggle room, it gives the rotor a chance to dynamicaly adapt to the systems most efficient path. LoL, guerrilla tactics of the tri-force magnets! You know, dynamic adaption, and going for efficient attacks, like convoys... you get my analogy...

[Tinker]

sm0ky2

Based on your previous post it's the same here, I work at my desk with hand tools.

Precision is is a lofty goal if I get that far.

If or when I get to To the point of a viable device  I have backing based on my previous endeavours but this one requires proof beyond convenital thinking .

Leave the details to the experts I am just looking for a working device.
No one will take us seriously without without them.


Be well
TINKER