Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

[Omnibus]

@smOky2,

If what you?re saying is true and there?s indeed 25% greater energy out, exiting the set of stations, than in (that is, the energy to overcome the repulsion barrier at the entrance) then it is OU and we have made it even in the horizontal variant. That has to be demonstrated experimentally, though, because it isn?t at all evident theoretically in this case.

thats somewhat is a mosgnomer.. there is not "25% more energy out".

there is 25% more energy generated while transversing the gates. - meaning this must be extracted inbetween the entrance and exit of the gates -
i.e.- by work, such as when Clanzer's set-up transported the firetruck through the gates.
the repulsion force at the gate exit is identicle to the force at the entrance.

If what you?re saying now, which contradicts what you said before, is the case then the horizontal variant is hopeless. That 25% was thrown in for no reason. The only hope then remains the sloping one which is a variant of the SMOT.

[Omnibus]

@Rusty_Springs,

Read my analysis of the Johannes Taisnierius device (contemporary SMOT) and try to understand it. That?s the only analysis so far conclusively proving overunity. Most likely your device is a variation of the SMOT seemingly a better construction because probably the piece can exit the system smoothly and proceed on a reverse sloping plane unlike the piece in SMOT whereby it has to fall at a distance to escape being stuck at the sticky spot. If this is confirmed to be the case then traveling of the piece along a closed loop will only be a matter of not so difficult tune-up.

As for the possibility to build a self-sustaining device when all the stations are on a horizontal plane, that?s highly doubtful because of the explanation you give above. Unless, the energy out is greater than the energy in as @ClaNZeR?s fifth video seems to suggest. Like I said, all that has to be confirmed experimentally and before doing that all speculations don?t hold much water.

[sm0ky2]

perhaps i was confusing when i said that "it exits with"

i mean over the entire system loop, from begining to the otherend, extra energy is gained. Wether or not we extract this does not seem to effect the exit force on a balanced gate.
[ not saying that using this energy "cant" effect it, just that it doesnt always], which to me is a pretty clear demonstration of overunity. though to be absolutely sure, more accurate measurements of the input energy vs the output must be made.


i dont think that "hopeless" is the right term here., as we can easily shape the flux-distortion
so that (part of) this 25% is directed towards the gate exit - as in the "Extended Force Gate"
and a few other variants we have seen,
The extended gate being uni-directional, is imbalanced - and therefore causes the attraction zone to be larger on one end than the other. conversly the repulsion zone is shorter on one end than the other.
Important to note that a shorter distance through the repulsion field means there are more lines of flux per meter, and thus the field is "stronger", but their total energy value is the same.
albeit spread over a larger area on one end. This is why the rollers speed increases at it nears the end of the extended gates.
and Clanzer has already demonstrated one method of extracting the energy, between the gates in his FireTruck demonstration. the gates are performing work, by moving a mass.

[Omnibus]

perhaps i was confusing when i said that "it exits with"

i mean over the entire system loop, from begining to the otherend, extra energy is gained. Wether or not we extract this does not seem to effect the exit force on a balanced gate.
[ not saying that using this energy "cant" effect it, just that it doesnt always], which to me is a pretty clear demonstration of overunity. though to be absolutely sure, more accurate measurements of the input energy vs the output must be made.


i dont think that "hopeless" is the right term here., as we can easily shape the flux-distortion
so that (part of) this 25% is directed towards the gate exit - as in the "Extended Force Gate"
and a few other variants we have seen,
The extended gate being uni-directional, is imbalanced - and therefore causes the attraction zone to be larger on one end than the other. conversly the repulsion zone is shorter on one end than the other.
Important to note that a shorter distance through the repulsion field means there are more lines of flux per meter, and thus the field is "stronger", but their total energy value is the same.
albeit spread over a larger area on one end. This is why the rollers speed increases at it nears the end of the extended gates.
and Clanzer has already demonstrated one method of extracting the energy, between the gates in his FireTruck demonstration. the gates are performing work, by moving a mass.

That will be interesting to demonstrate experimentally. So far what appears as acceleration within the stations is compensated therein and whether or not there's more energy out than in isn't clear.

[sm0ky2]

@ OMNI

the inclined Tri-Gates are nothing like the smot, except for the fact that it goes up an incline.


If i had to compare the Tri-Force Gate to anything, it would be the Howard Johnson Linear Motor, Like in the You-Tube video i linked above.
as you can see in the video, their actions are identicle. as are their magnetic fields when observed through the gaussviewer.

the magnetic field of the Smot looks nothing like this.