Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

[Omnibus]

@ClaNZeR,

The first video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP46aoVkOUQ ) seems very promising because there is this necessary assisting field of gravity available. Just as in Johannees Taisnierius? device (SMOT). It really is a variation of Taisnierius? device actually. Probably even better because in the latter there must be a sufficient height for the ball to fall through else it would get stuck at the sticky spot. In your experiment it seems the ball (the dumbbell) can exit smoothly the stations and proceed immediately along a trail of a reverse slope. That?s really critical if that?s the case. The dumbbell needs only a slight slope to go sliding steadily down until reaching again the entrance of the stations. Seems so obvious but like everything else must be actually done to have it really confirmed. Good luck with this experiment, mate. I?ll be following with great interest.

Not so sure about the success of the second video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPnMkGbJbnw) but you may prove me completely wrong there. I still maintain the trough-hill theory I mentioned several times regarding Butch LaFonte?s contraption but here the things may be slightly different in view of the fact that the dumbbell gets far out of the way of the initial set of stations, beyond the action of their magnetic field. We?ll see what happens. Unfortunately, at this moment I don?t have the necessary setup to do the experiment myself but I hope to get one (what exactly is this set of magnets called so that I can order it?) to try especially the Taisnerius-like one.

[AquariuZ]

If ever I wanted a camera its now.

Since two days I?ve been playing with this (96-piece GeoMag set 30 bloody ?) and the results are very interesting even if others may seem to think they are because of field coupling.

Try this.

Open the gate and put the parts on the lenght of a level table so that the points that were pointing inwards are now all pointing up, first series to the left, next series to the right. Now take your roller (same with two steel balls) and simply release it starting from the left at about an inch above the series.

The roller will accelerate to the right (Provided you are the right side up) decellerate when entering the second series (to the right) slow down, pass the last on the right, stop, and GO BACK to the left reaching a point just a little less than starting point, and then do it all over again, and again unit it finally locks in the center.

My record is now around 4 minutes of continuus motion using two sets of 6 triangles. Hypnotic to watch

Next I have taped 16 rollers to the wheel of an old golf trolley and put a gate UNDER the wheel, while balancing the cart horizontally so that it just not touches the ground. It is hard to find the ideal placement BUT I have now around 12 revolutions with only the slightest touch. There goes my weekend....

Another thing is the curve. If you try the first experiment without the steel balls, the rolling magnet will curve away nicely always following the same path. If you use a slight curve, the ball less roller FOLLOWS that path exactly.

Important to note that the more open the gate, the more stable the movement is.

I have calculated that I can keep a roller going indefinitly using a large circle of tri-gates widely spread, creating a circle of around 4 metres in diameter. There is one catch, I would need around 6 boxes of Geomag. At 30? a pop I am going over budget.

What a great idea to use different sized steel rollers, and surprisingly it works. But can motion be sustained?

I must know so I probably will buy more GeoMag once I do have the funds.

Great fun to play with, now if I could just convince my 7-year old not to touch anything...

[Omnibus]

@AquariuZ,

That's very interesting but this sounds worrisome:

unit it finally locks in the center.

The critics would say--well, that's what a pendulum does. As in a pendulum you put in initial energy (placing it at the entrance of the stations amounts to spending that initial energy) and then when it's let go it converts back and forth the potential and kinetic energy just as the pendulum does until coming to a stop due to losing it through friction and so on.

Will be interesting to try having it traverse full closed loops. Then the above argument is hard to sustain. Good luck and hope the little buddy doesn't lose too many of the pieces while assisting you do the experiment.

[sm0ky2]

@ClaNZeR,

The first video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP46aoVkOUQ ) seems very promising because there is this necessary assisting field of gravity available. Just as in Johannees Taisnierius? device (SMOT). It really is a variation of Taisnierius? device actually.

I have the inclination to disagree with this point. Much unlike the "smot" device, the gravitational field is not necessary with the Tri-Force Gates. you can exit the roller onto a level plane.
It does not have to "drop" to escape.

in fact, dropping it like this - subjects the roller to the attraction field, which is just under the repulsion zone, when the roller is exiting - that will actually pull the roller back towards the gates.

I would suggest gradually reducing the angle of slope at the top of the ramp,
and eject the roller on the same plane as the last gate. then wrap it back around on a  curved "slide" type ramp, then down a steep incline, onto a curve to re-enter the gate at the bottom.

[supersam]

omni,

i've been playing poker in my spare time.  want to go all in with your "absolute proof" on this one?  i'm all in!  doesn't work.  want to take the bet to just shuit up about it anywhere but a smot site?

lol
sam