Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

[Rusty_Springs]

Hi All
First I would like to thank Gyula for posting the video and I wanted to say the only reason I was showing that video was to show using a extended Trigate and adding wieght to your roller you can cross a airgap and re-enter a second Trigate, all other videos show more then one gate but all gates are still connected by the magnetic field between them where this setup the second gate is inderpendent of the first giving you a true airgap, to me the only way you could make a working pmm is by crossing a airgap and comming back into the system or by changing the field in the rotation you will never close a magnetic loop and get motion so as I have said I don't even look to close a magnetic loop to get a pmm and I think to progress we should all forget about trying to close a magnetic loop  and work on a way of ever crossing a airgap with a system that will attract in and repel out or change the poles of a permanent magnet as its moving.
The Trigate inceases the force going out but is not a true gate because it still has a problem comming in, my corner gate is a true gate because it attracts in  a repels out but to keep the rotation going it must use a bar magnet rotor meaning the gates field has to change on every half rotaion. if you had a good shield you could have a iron rotor with 3 prongs and two overlapping magnets as the stator one north and the opposite south this would work like an electromagnetic motor the iron will attract into the overlapping stator and move to the end of it where the shield stops the pull back comming out as its moving out the other prongs will be in the middle of the overlapping magnets opposite and comming in to the overlapping magnets were the prong is moving out so at all times you have two prongs attracting along the overlapping magnets and helping push the one prong out of the overlapping magnets and across the airgap, I can't see why this woldn\t work if your shield is good enough, you have the field changing all the time because your using soft iron and because your using overlapping magnets all the prongs once in the magnetic field want to move to the end of that field, the principle is the same as an electromagnetic motor except it usings permanent magnets and doesn't repel out.
Take Care All
Graham

[Omnibus]

Hi All
First I would like to thank Gyula for posting the video and I wanted to say the only reason I was showing that video was to show using a extended Trigate and adding wieght to your roller you can cross a airgap and re-enter a second Trigate, all other videos show more then one gate but all gates are still connected by the magnetic field between them where this setup the second gate is inderpendent of the first giving you a true airgap, to me the only way you could make a working pmm is by crossing a airgap and comming back into the system or by changing the field in the rotation you will never close a magnetic loop and get motion so as I have said I don't even look to close a magnetic loop to get a pmm and I think to progress we should all forget about trying to close a magnetic loop  and work on a way of ever crossing a airgap with a system that will attract in and repel out or change the poles of a permanent magnet as its moving.
The Trigate inceases the force going out but is not a true gate because it still has a problem comming in, my corner gate is a true gate because it attracts in  a repels out but to keep the rotation going it must use a bar magnet rotor meaning the gates field has to change on every half rotaion. if you had a good shield you could have a iron rotor with 3 prongs and two overlapping magnets as the stator one north and the opposite south this would work like an electromagnetic motor the iron will attract into the overlapping stator and move to the end of it where the shield stops the pull back comming out as its moving out the other prongs will be in the middle of the overlapping magnets opposite and comming in to the overlapping magnets were the prong is moving out so at all times you have two prongs attracting along the overlapping magnets and helping push the one prong out of the overlapping magnets and across the airgap, I can't see why this woldn\t work if your shield is good enough, you have the field changing all the time because your using soft iron and because your using overlapping magnets all the prongs once in the magnetic field want to move to the end of that field, the principle is the same as an electromagnetic motor except it usings permanent magnets and doesn't repel out.
Take Care All
Graham

Like I said, this is a useless video. It doesn't matter what the follow-up stations do and where they are located. The problem is the unaccounted for overcoming of the initial repelling barrier.

[sm0ky2]

@ OMNI-

so where is the video of your "working" SMOT loop??

Abou the pendulum -- if its so "easy" to debunk the energydifference input/output of a free swinging pendulum, then lets see it.

De-Bunk this - show me where this energy is comming from.

[Rusty_Springs]

Hi sm0ky2
I have to agree I would love seeing the working SMOT closed loop.
Take Care sm0ky2
Graham

[Omnibus]

@ OMNI-

so where is the video of your "working" SMOT loop??

Abou the pendulum -- if its so "easy" to debunk the energydifference input/output of a free swinging pendulum, then lets see it.

De-Bunk this - show me where this energy is comming from.

What energy in the pendulum experiment? Like I said, with the stations the conditions are completely different from the conditions without stations. These two situations cannot be compared. Do you realize that?

As for the closed -B-C-A loop, I gave you a link--the link to the magnetic propagator.