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Overunity Machines Forum



Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

Started by couldbe, February 20, 2008, 08:45:25 AM

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sm0ky2

@ Graham

here's what i've been playing with, its a sort of "tri-force" variant of the corner gate.

i call it the Quad-Force
it's basically 2 tri-force (without the back bars) on the same ball.

orient it left to right like you do the tri-force.

I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

del_toro_es

 ;)Omnibus, the video of @smOky2 is the definitive proof that there is a net gain of energy when the magnet passes through the gate. If there was no a increase of energy when the magnet bar cross the first gate, the bar will stop in the same position that the departure but in the second gate. That is the motive of if we release a pendulum with an angle with vertical position, pendulum velocity reaches zero at the same angle but at the opposite and symmetrical position. And this is the reason because all orbits in a gravitational field are symmetrical and have two points with zero velocity, at these points kinetic energy is zero and potential energy with respect to the field is maximal. Into a   conservative field, if we not add energy as per example pulled the spaceship with a rocket, the sum of kinetic an potential energy is constant.

eavogels

Quote from: del_toro_es on February 28, 2008, 10:06:14 AM
;)Omnibus, the video of @smOky2 is the definitive proof that there is a net gain of energy when the magnet passes through the gate.
I think the roller is started too far into the first gate. Letting it start after it has passed to repelling bump, is actually adding enery to the roller. When one should try to start the roller 30 cm's earlier, you'll have to overcome a force, there after the roller is in rest (between repelling and attracting) so a start from the rest point is not giving the whole picture.
Eric.

Omnibus

Quote from: del_toro_es on February 28, 2008, 10:06:14 AM
;)Omnibus, the video of @smOky2 is the definitive proof that there is a net gain of energy when the magnet passes through the gate. If there was no a increase of energy when the magnet bar cross the first gate, the bar will stop in the same position that the departure but in the second gate. That is the motive of if we release a pendulum with an angle with vertical position, pendulum velocity reaches zero at the same angle but at the opposite and symmetrical position. And this is the reason because all orbits in a gravitational field are symmetrical and have two points with zero velocity, at these points kinetic energy is zero and potential energy with respect to the field is maximal. Into a   conservative field, if we not add energy as per example pulled the spaceship with a rocket, the sum of kinetic an potential energy is constant.

That's incorrect.

Omnibus

Quote from: eavogels on February 28, 2008, 10:14:41 AM
Quote from: del_toro_es on February 28, 2008, 10:06:14 AM
;)Omnibus, the video of @smOky2 is the definitive proof that there is a net gain of energy when the magnet passes through the gate.
I think the roller is started too far into the first gate. Letting it start after it has passed to repelling bump, is actually adding enery to the roller. When one should try to start the roller 30 cm's earlier, you'll have to overcome a force, there after the roller is in rest (between repelling and attracting) so a start from the rest point is not giving the whole picture.
Eric.

Correct.