Magnetic Power Inc - second Patent pending

[Bobbotov]

>Well, I admit the open forum is populated mostly by ghosts right now.

How long can a forum go on when the hosting company chooses not to engage? The focus will stray, people will start yawning and get restless. Steorn has made numerous statements over the past two years that they have not followed through on which by anyone's estimation is a bad business practice.

>I am talking about the opportunities and contacts that were generated in that forum, for me.

What possible opportunities could the Steorn forum provide that could be construed as worthwhile? There is not one bona fide scientist that I can ascertain that believes in this crap. Is it because scientists are really all Luddites at heart as the believers seem to think?

[Bobbotov]

>But from there to say that anyone claiming free energy must be a scammer

After decades of FE claims not one has panned out and many have been proved to be less than honest in their intentions. So from where does one get this exalted state of hope from? Wishful thinking?

Real free energy and believing in free energy are two different things. The first is non existent and the second is an abundance that far exceeds reality.

[pennies_everywhere]

@ChileanOne, since we agree that there is no free energy today, I assume that we also agree that there has never been free energy in the past.  That means that there is no reality of free energy.  You have a future hope for free energy, and for some reason a schadenfreude desire that some future discovery will cause me pain as a price for exercising critical reasoning today.  That's silly and childish.

If you think that there is evidence for free energy, I am happy to discuss what you think you've got.  If your evidence consists of people like Steorn, Joe Newman, Mark Goldes, etc just making claims, that evidence carries no weight.

It's easy enough to find out about Mark Goldes and his running free energy scam.  Do some legwork.

It's easy to market technology that had prior to been considered as impossible:  demonstrate it.  What's hard to market are empty claims. 

The burden of proof for claims that defy current knowledge is on the claimant, period.  The need to provide verifiable evidence for a scientific claim is science 101.  The free energy claimants to a one have never been able to establish verifiable evidence for their claims.  That leaves self-delusion, and intentional fraud as the only options.  In the case of Mark Goldes, the self-contradictions are so many and so massive that self-delusion is beyond consideration.

If you haven't figured out that Steorn was a ruse from the start, that's too bad.  Perhaps when you eventually do accept the truth you will take the experience as a valuable lesson in your ability to self-delude.  Steorn have shown you precisely zero evidence for what they claim.  Recognizing that fact is a matter of basic critical competence.  I will never owe any apologies for thinking clearly.