The secret of a working perpetual motion gravity powered device

[aleks]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyQ5--E6LAk&feature=related

On this one, just an idea. First of all, make it a bit bigger radius ring and make sure it elevates a bit. It should look like a paper ring that was cut with scissors with one end lifted a bit against the other. This should work I guess. The problem will still be about "escaping" the last V magnet segment. This can probably resolved using a pretty simple trick. You may arrange a simple mechanical lever that - when "flying magnet" strikes - pulls a magnetic shielding foil under the flying magnet. This should help to use the velocity of the flying magnet to escape the last V stage, and probably should help it to land on the start of the ring. During landing another mechanical lever can be used to pull the foil back.

In order to extract usable energy out of this device you have to add an axis in the center of the ring attached to a small generator. This axis should be connected with the flying magnet. Generator should be small enough so that it does not stop the magnet from flying. You may connect the generator to a LED.

Just an idea - not sure it will work. (one bit that worries me is that when magnetic shielding foil is pulled under the flying magnet, the flying magnet will be trying to get back. The only hope it has enough velocity when it strikes the lever). On the other hand, you may try to make a more 'clever' mechanism that pulls two blades of shielding foil from both sides, with blades being triangular so that the flying magnet slides into the correct side. Of course, the segment where this happens should be at least horizontal or the magnet will fall back from the elevation into the wrong side.

[gurangax]

Hi gurangax,
thanks for posting your DOC file,
but it is very confusing to me.
First you should state, that the wheel
is supposed to turn counter clockwise and
not clockwise, as I am used to see these wheels..

Also the DOC file loads and displays differently in
Word and OppenOffice, so it is best to post a PDF file.

2. Your idea with the weight holder is a bit confusing to me
as I don?t yet see, how you will release again the stored weight
and when and how it will go up then again ?

Maybe it would be best to draw up a GIF animation and post this.
Okay, this would take some time to draw it up
and then convert the single pics to a GIF animation,
but this way it would get much better clear, what you mean
and one could easily see, if the weights are right positioned, so the
wheel could keep turning on and on.

3. The idea with the additional SMOT ramp would mean
another input from the magnetic ramps, so it is not
only anymore a pure gravity wheel, what you wanted to present.
But okay, if it only would work with the right SMOT ramp inside it,
then you have to include it in your animation.

Well, so please maybe post an update
with an animation, so it is getting better clear how
the stored weight is going up again.
Many thanks in advance.

Regards, Stefan.

Ok stefan, I'll try do some animation. using the design in my doc it should rotate anti clockwise. What I mean there is that it can also be designed to turn clockwise. Using a SMOT device is not necessary but it will help the weight to climb the ramp faster.

Also I just found the third method which would not use a ramp, but I am still perfecting it and it will be much more promising. (Afterall this whole idea is still new to me).

-regards-

p.s the secret why we still can not achieve perpetual motion with gravity wheel system is that because of we tend to attach the weight to the system when regauging.

[gurangax]

Then i found this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMoIExJEaBU&feature=related

I see that the ball goes up so strong, that with a sloted route in the wheel, it also can help it to spin, and use all the force of the ball at the end to release it.

Thanks. That's probably a SMOT ramp. And it can help in my design.
-regards-

[gurangax]

Greetings perpetual seekers

Just to inform you that I have perfected the design of my wheel. And I can gurantee 95% of the time the wheel will have a one sided torque. It also can rotate clockwise or anticlockwise. But I figured that it won't benefit much by doing that. I'll post the document when I'm finished writing it. Also if you use the second method of my wheel combined with magnetic ramp like SMOT it will produce perpetual motion for sure. But that will be called magnetic assisted gravity wheel. Thanks

-regards-
Charles

p.s My gravity wheel theory won't end here.

[CLaNZeR]

Greetings perpetual seekers

Just to inform you that I have perfected the design of my wheel. And I can gurantee 95% of the time the wheel will have a one sided torque. It also can rotate clockwise or anticlockwise. But I figured that it won't benefit much by doing that. I'll post the document when I'm finished writing it. Also if you use the second method of my wheel combined with magnetic ramp like SMOT it will produce perpetual motion for sure. But that will be called magnetic assisted gravity wheel. Thanks

Hi Charles

Looking forward to the next Doc and tell you what I will have a go at building it, if the wheel does not have to be too big, looks simple enough.

What size were you thinking?

Cheers

Sean.