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Complete information on working SM style device.

Started by spherics, March 17, 2008, 12:03:53 AM

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acerzw

All this reminds me of my post on a 'Cymatic Energy Generator' here, Spheric's is an electromagnetic equivalent:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3354.msg65679.html#msg65679

The basic structure is the same as Spherics analogy to the H-Bomb.... it did not occur to me at the time. The idea I had came from Keely's levels of matter diagram and Walter Russell's work.

It occurs the feedback coils would not be necessary on the shell of the bomb if it was just compression of an exotic substance, Only one trigger wire for each shaped charge on each plate would be necessary to create the compression wave required to trigger the chain-reaction in the radioactive mass. I suppose there may be another explanation, and correction of the timing was my first idea, but as Spheric's points out the wires are of a length so the timing would be correct anyway, negating the need for feedback coils. I like the explanation of the EMP pulse, but there may be another explanation.

I would note disassociation of hydrogen molecules produces extra energy, yet the molecules remain so E=MC2 is not preserved. It seems likely that all energy is from the vacuum/aether as Tom Bearden states, and that all particles have perpetual motion since they derive there energy from the aether, which Tesla seems to regards as vibrating at very high frequency...

Spheric's basic premise seems to fit with aether theory as far as I have researched it. It echo's Schauberger's compression vortex/waves...

Wave interference focused on a central point seems worthwhile, it mirrors the structures of matter and the cosmos in general...

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       This configuration is way overkill.  Not worth the risk or the time or the money.  You don't need to risk compression of the aether to get some potential energy out of it.  Just anchor a chain to Earth and surf the Tsunami waves.   Why wouldn't 3 pulsed coils wrapped around a ring phased pulsed be a more direct way to start an aether swirl.  This creates an electrical smoke ring of sorts that will keep it's shit together relative to the aether freqs and pickup some potential energy from it.
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I would love to dive in and try but don't have access to anything more then a screwdriver LOL

I just read all of SM's pdf notes again then listened to Jacks radio interview again then looked at this spherics info. Spherics is going out on a limb here i am sure. I find it hard to believe that the TPU had no power supply so im sure it had at least a 12 volt keyfob battery in all the models. SM confirms there was batteries but later found the unit could be started without. Thats all required to start the timing circuit shown here. If SM had limited knowledge as Jack suggest its still not THAT hard to put together TTL/cmos stuff of the 90's to build a timing circuit to get this going. I think it could be built up with 2 IC's on an inch of veroboard and taped up even in the small round units.

Jack said when the units got hot the just shut down. SM already said his units contain thermistor cutouts. You can buy these beads that cut out at fixed temp they are used in things like hair dryers. That would explain why the unit got very hot to the point roasting then switch off. Without a cut out bead inside there is nothing to prevent total melt down of all the plastic wire insulation.

I do find the fixed 19 minutes hard to believe as a constant value between any tpu.  It would be the same on the same device as assuming the heat production was the same then it would required the same amount of time to reach the 130 C cutout temp. However other units that had different characteristics must cut out at different times. I can accept they ALL have heat problems. Jack states later he really only ever saw and played with the 15 inch tpu.

SM mentions he has SS devices he also says they are very very simple. No mass circuitry means no LSI purpose made IC's.  Jack says no there is basically nothing at all but then he never had access to more then the large tpu and never looked in the control box. The white molex connectors have far too many wires to be just coil terminations. I do agree that the small toroidal on top are now believed to be chokes and the big caps are simple DC filter caps and play no part in the real operation.

SM says the best collectors had 3 coils or layers but don't mean to say it wont work with 2. Jack feels it had 2 collectors. SM states the number of collectors can be fed in series or parallel to increase volts or amps.

I don't believe the magnet play a part in the operation. The position and usage is far too diverse between the 4 tpu shown in the vids other then to act as a switch. In one of the vids of the 108 volts tpu that lights up a single lamp SM puts hit hand in his pocket containing one magnet and drops it into the coil housing to turn on the device.  In the small 25 w open tpu 2 magnets were used. In one of the large 15 inch tpu vids a large speaker magnet was placed on the control box to activate the reed switch. Jack may be dead right about this fact.

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Hello, all. Sorry for the length of this post, but I've got lots of thoughts to share. I decided to put it in this thread because of the relevance of the title and the fact that it's not too clogged up with replies yet.

I've been monitoring the various information available about the TPU for some time now, and I'm finally ready to try a build of my own. I waited so long to get started because I've been compiling information and thinking it through first, and learning how to use my equipment again. What's in this posting will be the basis for my first efforts. I tip my hat to Otto, Roberto, Jason, Giantkiller, and everyone else who has managed to get their build to work and shared it with us. I apologize if anything I say here has been covered before in the forum; it's getting really difficult to follow all the threads.

Now, I'm not nearly as qualified as most of you here, but I hope you all will humor me and provide gentle feedback if warranted. I was educated as an EE but have never used it, so I won't claim to know what I'm doing. (Today I'm a data networking guru.) But I do have a fairly strong foundation in theory and played around in the lab quite a bit 25 years ago. I also had a couple of jobs repairing early video games (remember Pong?), pinball machines, jukeboxes, and early digital cash registers. I recall that you can get some interesting effects in analog audio circuits using magnets and coils placed in strategic spots.

My intent is to share my interpretation of SM's clues as related by Lindsay Mannix. I also heard Jack Durban's stuff on Sterling Allan's most excellent radio show earlier this week, and a few things he said make sense to me. I'm not concerned with who invented this technology, but SM did show us several working examples. Durban even said that "it works". If anyone has run across any other working examples as related by Durban I'm sure the group would be interested in hearing about them.

The theme here is "back to basics."

Lindsay's PDF is the source of 90% of my ideas; please refer to it when verifying my information. I believe SM gave us the entire thing in a nutshell on pages 8-9 of the PDF. The other 10% comes from the demo videos, which are of such poor quality as to be useful for little other than visual orientation. I don't know if I'm right or wrong about any of these interpretations, but I present them here in hopes that something I say may spark new ideas or perhaps solidify others.

We've seen various size TPUs in the videos. I think we can all agree that the size of the unit in part determines it's operating potential. The device should scale to many sizes up or down. I'm going to use a 15-inch unit as a baseline for talking here, but the size doesn't matter right now. 15" is a size that SM specifically referred to and I believe it is relevant to understanding other aspects of his clues (see Notes below). For now, just visualize a 15-inch unit, like the one Jack Durban says he saw.

Incidentally, Durban's claim of maximum TPU operating time do not jibe with the observational reports made by Dr. Schinzinger or the SM demo videos. Don't know if this is relevant or not, but it struck me as odd that there would be such different run-times observed.


* Control Coil Design *

SM said there are at least three control coils, "all the way around." The job of the control coils is to get electrons moving in the collector. In many of the builds I've seen here, there's been three control coils wound on spool forms. These will indeed produce electron flow when energized, but each coil's field of influence acts on a very narrow region of the collector. The "cardboard box and two table lamps in the empty garage" demo unit appears to be constructed of four coils like this, and is probably an early design (I doubt that plain garage goes with the nice house in the other demos). The concept I'm emphasizing is "all the way around" - induction at many points around the collector, "pushing" the flow around the collector like "squeezing a garden hose."

If a winding on a round core begins and terminates close to 0 degrees of arc, a decent toroidal coil is formed. The spacing between turns should probably be as close as possible to get the benefit of every bit of flux during each pulse. Once the first toroid is wound, the second is wound over it forming a second layer, but beginning and ending 120 degrees from the first. The third coil should be wound over the second forming a third layer, originating another 120 degrees around. The control coils would be three layers thick ("three coils or so one on top of the other"), perpendicular to the collector, with their ends spaced every 120 degrees. This physical arrangement also implies 120 degrees of phase, but we're talking DC output so phase isn't really the right term. SM gave an indication that one control coil may need to be directly connected to another one, but this wasn't entirely clear.

@Giantkiller, Tesla's patent 381970 does appear to be similar, but he used a mechanical exciter design to get things rolling. I think a functional device won't need much more than a cap or two, and at that only to get current moving faster and in more volume.

@JasonO: Bifilar windings double the fun, and your video regarding this is very telling. I think you are right on this point, although the SM demo videos don't seem to show bifilar windings. Too bad he taped everything up to obscure what's inside.

SM said he uses "lamp cord" to "connect his speakers". Lamp cord is usually two parallel conductors with a shared insulator, but I'm not sure that this configuration is entirely necessary - the videos seem to show a single conductor at either end of each control coil. What lamp cord does provide is a large number of individual conductors in a tight bundle, and I believe this is his point. Each strand in the bundle will host its own electron flow, thus multiplying the magnetic coupling potential. SM speaks of "1000 pieces of wire twelve inches long". A hundred turns in each control coil times the number of strands in the wire equals a lot of inches. Three layers of this should make for a really high-induction driver coil that can "push" lots of electrons around the collector, creating Tesla's "pressure".

Cork or plastic would make an ideal light-weight form for winding the toroidal control coils. So would most anything else non-conductive and non-ferrous (OK, maybe not bismuth!). The material doesn't need to be particularly heavy nor strong. A somewhat porous material may offer better vibration-dampening properties than a solid like plastic. SM doesn't mention the material or an exact shape, although the control coils appear to be elongated ovals. This shape would yield even more "inches of wire" than a true round-wound toroid. I've seen several suggestions to use baling wire (from SM) or iron wire, and I've got a spool to try it out. So long as the turns aren't in contact, iron wire may yield some additional flux.


* Collector Coil Design *

The collector isn't the most critical piece here - it's the control coils. I'm tempted to replace the terms "control coil" with "primary", and "collector" with "secondary", but I'll stick to the conventions established by SM. I'm not even sure that it has to be a Moebius design. Either way, I think we can all agree that the collector design isn't as important as establishing flow through it.

My initial efforts will employ a multi-turn length of lamp cord, at least 4 or 5 turns. Tesla's patent 381970 mentions adding an iron core, and this may be useful later. SM said something about possibly feeding the collector output back into the control coils (is that what he said?); logically this would be in the first or second control coil layer to boost the excitation phase. "Feed-forward" (not reverse RMF or flyback or anything like that) is the salient point. Right or wrong, I get this notion from SM's tube vs transistor discussion.


* Electronic Design *

Anyone notice how much SM says he hates transistors and likes to build using tubes first? Transistors were the big thing during the time his TPU was being developed, but he's right - they're sloppy as hell. MOSFETS are mentioned, and with a good clean signal source a MOSFET or two should be able to easily drive the control coils. These don't have to put out tons of juice, but the signal they emit must be a pure as possible to achieve the desired effect. The MOSFETs wouldn't necessarily need to be pulsed by a driver circuit, instead just boosting what's put into them from the caps. The output frequencies would ramp up as the circuit experiences its own inherent gain. SM makes a big point of reducing artifacts in the output, something tubes are very good at. His example of stereo amplifiers really drives this idea home, but these are concepts to be applied during refinement of a working unit and aren't that critical at this stage, IMHO.

Magnet to activate unit? Probably for a reed switch for off/on states as suggested by Durban, but the magnet may be of more use than just a switch. The smallest unit has no magnet visible, at least that I could see. There has been some discussion about the two toroidal coils and poly caps in the large unit being for smoothing, but I'm not sure this is correct. In the case of a toroid on a VGA monitor cable, for instance, the toroid typically surrounds the signal wires, and I don't see this configuration in the videos. I believe the caps and toroids in the large unit are there to generate "kicks" and have nothing to do with output. I hope Durban will post his "master" copy of the video so we could all see better, but it's still not out there yet that I've found.

According to Durban (and from looking at the demo videos) there are no electronics involved, and this makes sense - electronic circuits of any significance would require some type of power source to get them operational, and there just doesn't seem to be any external power source. However, something has to get things rolling.


* Pulse Frequencies *

SM referred to 3 frequencies. The frequencies are obviously important, but I feel quite sure that they're a function of natural resonance and not generated by a 555 or any other device. Durban said that the coils were "tediously wound" and I think this is a central concept. We all know that various winding configurations affect frequency in conductors. Once a resonance frequency has been established in the first control coil the others will be affected, presumably as a harmonic function. I've done a little math and found that the number "7" seems to figure prominently in SM's example in the PDF (see Notes below).


* Magnetic and Other Concepts *

I did much study years ago about magnetic fields and vortex effects in a toroid. I can't cite any examples directly, but I know they're out there. Specifically look for papers about MRI machines and similar technology. There are also definitely military applications in use that I won't discuss here.

A well-designed toroid with sufficient input power will generate a flux vortex, with the "top" side rotating in one direction and the "bottom" side rotating in the opposite direction. This would readily explain both the rotational inertial effects described by SM and fit with his assertion that there is some interaction with Earth's magnetic field. There's plenty out there about Earth magnetic currents also. I seem to remember some work by USGS in this area - Google it. In any event, the rotational nature of a strong toroidal-generated vortex fits well with the observed effects.


* Operation *

SM says to start the first frequency, then the second, then the third, in sequence. I don't think he meant that they have to be started individually, but that they will propagate themselves to neighboring coils as the TPU "spins up". They would feed themselves and build in a linear fashion once the correct configuration is found.

But something has to generate the initial "kick", and we're back to the magnet/caps/ceramic-core toroid question. We know that a magnet moved across a wire will generate a small current dependent on direction, distance, and speed. SM alludes to this as well. A small number of "kicks" should be all that's required to get it going.



* The Build *

I saw a thread started by a new group member who wound a simple toroidal coil around a collector and says he's getting 3 VAC from it. I suspect this is just a fluke, as there's really no way that an unpowered coil can produce AC voltage. I replicated this last night and got a half-volt DC potential from it, but I'm not sure whether this is real or a side-effect caused by signal injection from my oscilloscope probe. I'll be doing more testing with this basic design when I find my good meter, since my old Triplett seems to have given up the ghost.


* Notes *

After digesting the PDF posted by Lindsay Mannix, I did a little arithmetic and came up with the following. I don't claim to be a math expert, but got some interesting results that seem to correlate some of SM's statements. Recall I mentioned earlier that 7 seems significant.

SM said he saw a 35k Hz resonance. He also mentioned the device also exhibited a 245K Hz signal. He went on to peg the first frequency at 35.705k Hz. Let's look at these, assuming that all values refer to kilo Hertz:

245 / 35 = 7
35 / 7    = 5 (remember SM saying that output was about 5k Hz?)

More precisely:

35.705 / 7.141 = 5
35.705 * 7.141 = 254.9694

Now let's consider SM's statement that frequency is directly related to circumference (I think he meant diameter in his speaker example, but circumference could be used just as easily). Assuming the 15" design I said I would use as a reference for this posting:

5 / 15   = 0.333
35 / 15  = 2.333
245 / 15 = 16.333

5.2127k Hz can be derived using these ratios, if one cares to do the math.

And:

0.333 * 7 =  2.331
2.333 * 7 = 16.331

I don't know if any of this is significant or not, but I'd bet there's a clue in there somewhere. Once someone has a functional unit this may be useful for scaling.


I will post a video when I have something significant to show, as others have so generously done. For now I just want to get folks thinking in line with the KISS principle. I believe that multiple frequency generators and such are over-thinking the problem. For now, thanks for reading. I welcome any and all feedback except flames - that has no place here. Happy experimenting, and be careful!

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