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[chrisC]

@Spherics,

Prove it.

@Grumpy

Whilst I don't know if what Spherics advocated will or will not work, surely you've been experimenting enough with all your coils and set ups this past two years to realize he is not some bloke off the street who happened to stumble on some research that others have done and 'wrote' about it?

The structure and even ratios he suggested made sense, at least to me. He even made the point that supported SM's statement of not killing yourself by not tuning to exact resonance!

Well, instead of asking him to 'prove it', maybe you can just adjust your coils and oscillators to maybe test if he is blowing smoke or there is some truth? Just be careful because you can also dissapear in smoke! We certainly do want to hear from you!

cheers
chrisC

[Grumpy]

I'm with Grumpy - prove it. Oh no... it's the usual cloak and dagger shit and he's disappeared.

Exactly.

The only thing being "packed" is our heads full of this "nonsense", and our "asses" by the greed of our leaders.

[Grumpy]

@Spherics,

Prove it.

@Grumpy

Whilst I don't know if what Spherics advocated will or will not work, surely you've been experimenting enough with all your coils and set ups this past two years to realize he is not some bloke off the street who happened to stumble on some research that others have done and 'wrote' about it?

The structure and even ratios he suggested made sense, at least to me. He even made the point that supported SM's statement of not killing yourself by not tuning to exact resonance!

Well, instead of asking him to 'prove it', maybe you can just adjust your coils and oscillators to maybe test if he is blowing smoke or there is some truth? Just be careful because you can also dissapear in smoke! We certainly do want to hear from you!

cheers
chrisC

It takes more than eloquent prose to claim you have the knowledge or how something operates.

If spherics has this knowledge, then I "beseech" him to prove it or shut up like everyone else.  See, anyone can use fancy words.

Everything makes sense when you don't know how it works.   You read a few things that are interesting, your imagination fills in the rest.

Like a said before: Prove it!

[chrisC]

It takes more than eloquent prose to claim you have the knowledge or how something operates.

If spherics has this knowledge, then I "beseech" him to prove it or shut up like everyone else.  See, anyone can use fancy words.

Everything makes sense when you don't know how it works.   You read a few things that are interesting, your imagination fills in the rest.

Like a said before: Prove it!

Not going to get into squabbles with you. Fact is after all your years of searching and reading and trying, you still have not done anything remotely close to achieving OU. Have you? Then maybe, loosen up and pay some attention to some 'fancy' words. Maybe the fancy words will save you from another umpteen years of searching in the wrong direction?

cheers
chrisC

[tao]

Spherics has every right to just say something and not 'prove it.'

It is up to us, those who really want a working FE device, to decided for OURSELVES if we want to attempt Spherics's setup. He doesn't have to prove it, since he is not going to be interacting with us anymore.

Its a bit of a personal journey, if we are walking along a path and see some bread crumbs that someone else left (which potentially lead to our goal), we can choose to follow them or we can choose to ignore them thinking that they were put there to sidetrack us. It is a personal decision.

So, obviously Spherics won't be back, so I think its futile to argue about 'proving it', because he is OBVIOUSLY NOT going to come back and prove anything.

So, you have to decide for yourselves, leave Spherics's theory (bread crumbs) alone, or follow them to wherever they might take you (perhaps the goal you seek). And even if you end up being sidetracked, what is the REAL loss?

Thats all I have to say on that...

No offense to anyone!