Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !

[Jdo300]

Hi Everyone,

Excellent compilation of info from SM comp-tech! As I was reading through some of them (for the millionth time), I found many many correlations that seem to corroborate my explanation of the production of DC on the collector coil! I'll list each item from your post with highlights on my points of interest and explain each one as it applies to my idea:

1. The technology is not magic and is in fact uses simple electronic concepts to
achieve the demonstrated results.

OK, first point. Whatever is making this thing work is NOT EXOTIC from an engineering standpoint. Obviously one could delve into lots of theories about ZPE, Torsion/Scalar Fields, Radiant Energy, Magnetic Reconnection, Magnetostriction, etc (I've seen it all on these forums!) but the point here is that the methodology to get this thing going is SIMPLE. So I'm going to focus on concepts that I KNOW work to explain the TPU's operational characteristics.

The next point of interest is here:

19. Yes there is a rotating field which causes electrons to flow in copper wire and be used to provide useful work force. There are many wires perpendicular to the main collector. This is a necessary part of the device.

OK, First point. The thing has a rotating field! (I know this may sound redundant to most here, but this is for the newbies too). But the point is that the rotating field is NECESSARY for the operation of the device. So we can immediately rule out normal transformer action. A second reason to rule out transformer action is his explicit mention of the collector coil being perpendicular to the "many wires." Of course he makes this point even clearer in this next point:

62. Listen, you need to make three coils or so one on top of the other.But the important thing is to wrap the control coils perpendicularly around the collector coils.

OK. Now we can see that at the very least, we have one or more "control" coils that are toroidally wound on the device, with one or more "collector" coils wrapped circumferentially around the device. I have an idea of why three coils is necessary but won't go into that at this point.

Now back to point 19. He explicitly states that it is this "rotating field" that "causes" the electrons to flow in the collector coil.... So therefore, one can obviously assume that without a rotating field, you get NO OUTPUT. Many of us have been pulsing coils in all kinds of different ways, but few people have explicitly tried to produce a rotating magnetic field in the device.... I believe that his point there is an explicit reference to the RMF current drive technique!

To backup my claims further:

31. If you had a short wire and you move the magnet across it, you would always
have limited potential because the length of the wire was so short.

OK, Now, before I go any further... what do you think Steven meant when he saif that the magnet goes "across" the wire? Think about it while reading the rest here:

Ok, now what if we increase the length of the wire to many miles in length ,
even with a very weak magnetic field moving across the wire you still have a much greater potential flow of power available.
If we out it into perspective of power per inch, it may be easier to understand.
If you have a small magnetic field moving across a wire 12 inches long, it can generate an electron flow equal to let?s say 1 milivolt per inch.
If you move the magnetic 12 inches at the same speed , you get 12 milivolts
as you transgress the 12 inches of wire.
Understand that I am trying to convey a principle that you can understand for use in the future. So you have a wire 12 inches long, and you can make 12 milivolts moving a magnet across it. If you have a wire 1000 feet long and you move the same small magnetic field across the length of it, you can create much more voltage potential perhaps 12,000 milivolts let?s say.
So, you have managed to generate a significant amount of electric power
with a weak magnetic force. Ok, how does this help us? Where am I going with this? Suppose you have 1000 pieces of wire 12 inches long and you run the same weak magnetic field over them all at the same time??. You get the same flow of electrons. If the wires are run in series , then you will get the 12,000 milivolts etc. If you connect the wires in parallel, you will get a higher current but lower voltage. However, the power potential is the same whether you run the wires in series or parallel.

Ok, did you see my point there? I believe that many people when thinking about the magnet moving across the wire assumed that he was talking about the magnet's travel being perpendicular to the length of wire. But you can see that he is referring to the magnet being moved across the length of the wire!

But what you say? That makes no sense! You can't induce current in a wire that way.... YES You can! With the RMF Current Drive technique! So replace each instance of the word "across" with the word "along" and it will make more sense!

I'm not done yet! look at this other segment now:

55. You know, it is very similar to the idea of a long garden hose.
Picture a hose with water in it. If you pick up one end and move along the length of the hose you will move the water constantly along in the direction you are moving. You could also squeeze the hose in the direction to move the water along as well. and you could do both to control the movement of the water more precisely. You can think of the movement of water as the movement of electrons
through the collector coils.

Yet more confirmation that the field is dragging electrons down the wire, not perpendicular to it like regular induction!

I have much more to add but will stop here for now. Let me know what you all think :-).

God Bless,
Jason O

[AhuraMazda]

Jason,
Your interpretations does make sense. The reason you need at least 3 windings around the collector is to simulate a directional forcing/forming of the magnetic field.

I guess using electronics to generate the rotating magnetic field is still OK. If you notice, the Tesla patent also call's for electrically isolated core wires ( such as bailing wire formed in the shape of a loop ). Still, the core does not need to be ferrous.

This ties up also with jacks comment that the device does not have to be circular.
The rotation of the magnetic field must be tuned to match the collector's ability to pass the required current.


AM

[Earl]

Hi Comp-Tech, hi Jason,

I believe it has become obvious that SM could advance because he was "stupid" and therefore not handicapped by being intelligent, regardless of how he first came into possession of a TPU.

No educated person would move a magnet along a length of wire, because we are taught in school/university that doing such is totally stupid and makes no sense.  We are taught that Faraday induction requires that the magnet has to move across the wire so that the wire is cutting magnetic lines of force.  It is implied that there is no other way of inducing voltage/current into conductors.

So now we have to educate ourselves about Radiant Induction, which I will abbreviate with RI.  RI is the induction from one conductor to another, whereby the conductors (or their planes) are orthogonal to each other.  RI has the property that, while Lenz's law is applicable to Faraday Induction and can not be "gotten around" by any means, it is not subject to Lenz's law.

RI is best observed and used by utilizing Radiant Energy in one of the conductors or conductor planes.  RE is defined as a not well understood phenomenon that occurs during the primary instant of a large voltage change with a fast transition time, before traditional, classical current starts flowing.  RE does not stay in a conductor, but leaves a conductor, or conductor plane, in orthogonal direction(s).  Direction is plural in the case of a spirally-wound RE transducer, for example, the RE "field" of a solenoid would be orthogonal to its magnetic field, even if the solenoid is bend into a toroid shape.

A conductor in the center of a spirally-wound, toroid-shaped RE transducer would be subject to intense interception of RE, thereby creating a RI between the non-primary and the non-secondary.  Should this RE "spot" travel in a longitudinal fashion around the circumference the moving intense point of interception in the center collection conductor would push electrons in front of it, and pull electrons behind it.  The central conductor would be forced to have one end much more positive than the other end, e.g. a DC voltage would appear on the central conductor.  Unfortunately, the wake behind the moving RE interception point causes a lot of turbulence and therefore heating due to these undesired electron vortices.  This heating is unavoidable; it is a by-product of pushing/pulling electrons along a length of wire.  It is minimized by obligatory use of finest-possible HF litz wire.  The OU effect arises because as these pulled electrons increase in speed due to increase of rotational velocity, they hit other atoms hard and fast enough to cause electron avalanche in the conducting central collector.  Between electron avalanche and electron eddies, huge output power results, but the central conductor will heat up, eventually exponentially.  It can not be excluded that wide-scale planetary deployment of billions of hot-spots is not in the interest of the human race.

The above I have called Earl's Theory of Everything TPU.

Not to panic, should the worst fears of my theory prove to be correct, I already have other ideas circulating in my head.

Earl

EDIT:  I invent a new abbreviation:  RRE = Rotating Radiant Energy

[aleks]

It seems that SM is probably an experimenter. He floats between DC electron 'kicks' and earth magnetic fields - from these phrases I do not see they are related to each other. The only way I see you can take energy out of earth magnetic field gradients is to create some kind of non-linear curvature of magnetic field space so that the potentials at different distances (e.g. 1km) are contained within a single TPU device. This sounds like a woodoo magic. DC kicks look more real. I'm pretty sure that people tend to describe unusual things with usual things - this is a normal behavior known for thousand years. But we should create unusual words and connections to be able to describe the unusual in a useful way. It's a known thing - earth's magnetic field's useful potentials are kilometers apart, I do not see a reason to tie to it. Well, there are a lot of interesting phenomenons may exist in relation to earth's magnetic field, but let's be real: only difference of potential allows us to extract any usable energy, and until the potential difference ceases to exist. Potential difference itself can be perceived as a flow of energy from point A to point B, so we can only take as much energy as there is available in such flow (but usually much less as with thermodynamics and Carnot's efficiency, for example).

Moreover he does mention that when frequencies sum they create a kick - this is the same thing as a sawtooth wave. In fact 'beating' usually mentioned by many can be created from sawtooth wave with some of its harmonic components being out of sync. When they all are in sync a pure sawtooth wave is created.

As I see SM (in relation to his device) also mentions 'atomic explosion' and magnetic anomalies it creates. And so I am - I'm continuing to push the idea that this TPU device is a controllable matter disintegrator. No more no less. (and of course, DC kicks are not related to earth's magnetic field - it's laughable considering earth's magnetic field's differential in any given point of space is diminishingly small and is close to static field while an energy from the magnetic gradient can be taken only if the induced object or magnetic field itself is moving/oscillating).

(it's also should be noted that voltage in circuit should pulse from 0 to X DC, not from X DC to Y DC - I've seen somebody's circuit with +12DC on one side and 0 to +5DC on pulse side, this isn't correct IMO as this is a matter integrator curcuit and should not produce surplus energy if any).

On the question of projectiles (just in case), there are evidences exist proving that a striking projectile creates excessive energy around the point of explosion. This is taken from analyzing the results of projectile's explosion: it may heat the surrounding object much higher than for the projected amount (which is kinetic energy of projectile + chemical energy of explosion). Not to mention EM-induced ice explosion (which as somebody suggested to me) during which ~7 times more energy is released than expended - though, I'm not sure about the details of this experiement.

[Frederic2k1]

Hi Everyone,

Excellent compilation of info from SM comp-tech! As I was reading through some of them (for the millionth time), I found many many correlations that seem to corroborate my explanation of the production of DC on the collector coil! I'll list each item from your post with highlights on my points of interest and explain each one as it applies to my idea:

1. The technology is not magic and is in fact uses simple electronic concepts to
achieve the demonstrated results.

OK, first point. Whatever is making this thing work is NOT EXOTIC from an engineering standpoint. Obviously one could delve into lots of theories about ZPE, Torsion/Scalar Fields, Radiant Energy, Magnetic Reconnection, Magnetostriction, etc (I've seen it all on these forums!) but the point here is that the methodology to get this thing going is SIMPLE. So I'm going to focus on concepts that I KNOW work to explain the TPU's operational characteristics.

The next point of interest is here:

19. Yes there is a rotating field which causes electrons to flow in copper wire and be used to provide useful work force. There are many wires perpendicular to the main collector. This is a necessary part of the device.

OK, First point. The thing has a rotating field! (I know this may sound redundant to most here, but this is for the newbies too). But the point is that the rotating field is NECESSARY for the operation of the device. So we can immediately rule out normal transformer action. A second reason to rule out transformer action is his explicit mention of the collector coil being perpendicular to the "many wires." Of course he makes this point even clearer in this next point:

62. Listen, you need to make three coils or so one on top of the other.But the important thing is to wrap the control coils perpendicularly around the collector coils.

OK. Now we can see that at the very least, we have one or more "control" coils that are toroidally wound on the device, with one or more "collector" coils wrapped circumferentially around the device. I have an idea of why three coils is necessary but won't go into that at this point.

Now back to point 19. He explicitly states that it is this "rotating field" that "causes" the electrons to flow in the collector coil.... So therefore, one can obviously assume that without a rotating field, you get NO OUTPUT. Many of us have been pulsing coils in all kinds of different ways, but few people have explicitly tried to produce a rotating magnetic field in the device.... I believe that his point there is an explicit reference to the RMF current drive technique!

To backup my claims further:

31. If you had a short wire and you move the magnet across it, you would always
have limited potential because the length of the wire was so short.

OK, Now, before I go any further... what do you think Steven meant when he saif that the magnet goes "across" the wire? Think about it while reading the rest here:

Ok, now what if we increase the length of the wire to many miles in length ,
even with a very weak magnetic field moving across the wire you still have a much greater potential flow of power available.
If we out it into perspective of power per inch, it may be easier to understand.
If you have a small magnetic field moving across a wire 12 inches long, it can generate an electron flow equal to let?s say 1 milivolt per inch.
If you move the magnetic 12 inches at the same speed , you get 12 milivolts
as you transgress the 12 inches of wire.
Understand that I am trying to convey a principle that you can understand for use in the future. So you have a wire 12 inches long, and you can make 12 milivolts moving a magnet across it. If you have a wire 1000 feet long and you move the same small magnetic field across the length of it, you can create much more voltage potential perhaps 12,000 milivolts let?s say.
So, you have managed to generate a significant amount of electric power
with a weak magnetic force. Ok, how does this help us? Where am I going with this? Suppose you have 1000 pieces of wire 12 inches long and you run the same weak magnetic field over them all at the same time??. You get the same flow of electrons. If the wires are run in series , then you will get the 12,000 milivolts etc. If you connect the wires in parallel, you will get a higher current but lower voltage. However, the power potential is the same whether you run the wires in series or parallel.

Ok, did you see my point there? I believe that many people when thinking about the magnet moving across the wire assumed that he was talking about the magnet's travel being perpendicular to the length of wire. But you can see that he is referring to the magnet being moved across the length of the wire!

But what you say? That makes no sense! You can't induce current in a wire that way.... YES You can! With the RMF Current Drive technique! So replace each instance of the word "across" with the word "along" and it will make more sense!

I'm not done yet! look at this other segment now:

55. You know, it is very similar to the idea of a long garden hose.
Picture a hose with water in it. If you pick up one end and move along the length of the hose you will move the water constantly along in the direction you are moving. You could also squeeze the hose in the direction to move the water along as well. and you could do both to control the movement of the water more precisely. You can think of the movement of water as the movement of electrons
through the collector coils.

Yet more confirmation that the field is dragging electrons down the wire, not perpendicular to it like regular induction!

I have much more to add but will stop here for now. Let me know what you all think :-).

God Bless,
Jason O

Jason,

only for understanding. Do you mean, that we have to "push" the electrones around the circumference by a rotating magnetfield like in a particle accelerator ?

regards