Perpetual Motion Wheel Design (Quite Simple)

[Dgraphic911]

@alex

Keep up the good work, your very inspirational. Even though you sound crazy and irrational and most people ridicule you, i sort of admire your tenacity and spirit to continue after what your dream is. Now if you and every one else shared ideas instead of misleading and holding back then this would already be done. But that just gives me more time to finish my secret project, LOL no not really.

Your wheel shows real potential to learn from. Pictures are great, but i would suggest some experimenting. Not building the whole wheel but focus on how the piece that powers works.

Sometimes the bounce or return of the object that is propelling actually creates more force going in the opposite direction than expected. Some times the point on the wheel were you expect the COG of the weight to be acting on the wheel is different than expected. I don't need you to build a wheel to prove anything to me. As like the rest who have working wheels its all up to you to learn how to get their from where you are . Without building prototypes and feeling the wheel in your hands you will find you creative mind struggling with reality and until your hand feels the action your mind cannot create the next step.


Keep it up. i'm sure your closer than youv'e been

[Alexioco]

@alex

Keep up the good work, your very inspirational. Even though you sound crazy and irrational and most people ridicule you, i sort of admire your tenacity and spirit to continue after what your dream is. Now if you and every one else shared ideas instead of misleading and holding back then this would already be done. But that just gives me more time to finish my secret project, LOL no not really.

Your wheel shows real potential to learn from. Pictures are great, but i would suggest some experimenting. Not building the whole wheel but focus on how the piece that powers works.

Sometimes the bounce or return of the object that is propelling actually creates more force going in the opposite direction than expected. Some times the point on the wheel were you expect the COG of the weight to be acting on the wheel is different than expected. I don't need you to build a wheel to prove anything to me. As like the rest who have working wheels its all up to you to learn how to get their from where you are . Without building prototypes and feeling the wheel in your hands you will find you creative mind struggling with reality and until your hand feels the action your mind cannot create the next step.


Keep it up. i'm sure your closer than youv'e been

I sound crazy and irrational?

I really want to build this wheel, but I'm not to good with wood, I have tried it with carboard as I'm good with it but, it's not practical...


Weight E, F, A, B and C where stuck onto the wheel, weight D hung from a piece of string with a stopper behind it.
The wheel was then slightly tilted to the right and let go, as the wheel span to the right, weight D was lifted right around to the very top and slung off the stopper causing weight D to swing to the bottom of the wheel.

Conclusion:

If the wheel has the power to lift weight D on the outside of the wheel, then it will have a stronger effect with the stopper being near the centre of the wheel.
But, having a weight just dangle at the bottom is not enough to sustain motion as more weight will gather on the ascending side as the wheel revolves. If weight D can make it to stopper 6 from the release point, then the wheel has nearly achieved perpetual motion?

But there is one more catch;
Weight D has to make it to stopper 6 just before weight C is released, which means that the wheel has to revolve at just the right speed for weight D to make it to stopper 6 just before the release of weight C if this is achieved, then it should achieve perpetual motion.

[Dgraphic911]

sound, not are.


and you should be able to build with cardboard. All of my wheels are working with cardboard. Use pennies, quarters as weights as the relationship will be very good to lead/ wood. Brass/wood or whatever you thought was used.

if not send me some CAD drawings and i'll throw them on the water jet with some plexi and we can throw it together really quick. I have lots of circles we can probably already use. I don't want your wheel. You need it to learn from it. But, if you think the only thing stopping you is the ability to work with wood then you might be mistaken. Your need/drive to want to create it is whats lacking. Otherwise you or anyone else would not use lack off......materials/money/time ETC as your excuses.

If you believe then find a way.  If you cannot find a way then you might not believe enough. Sorry but thats where i weigh in on the subject.

[Alexioco]

sound, not are.


and you should be able to build with cardboard. All of my wheels are working with cardboard. Use pennies, quarters as weights as the relationship will be very good to lead/ wood. Brass/wood or whatever you thought was used.

if not send me some CAD drawings and i'll throw them on the water jet with some plexi and we can throw it together really quick. I have lots of circles we can probably already use. I don't want your wheel. You need it to learn from it. But, if you think the only thing stopping you is the ability to work with wood then you might be mistaken. Your need/drive to want to create it is whats lacking. Otherwise you or anyone else would not use lack off......materials/money/time ETC as your excuses.

If you believe then find a way.  If you cannot find a way then you might not believe enough. Sorry but thats where i weigh in on the subject.

P.S You may have missed my edit on the "Test on my Wheel" just above your post

I have tried with cardboard, my excitement over this wheel has gone alittle, it would start up again if I knew I could make it correctly lol

The pegs were hard to do, I made and attached them on, they were good but also flimsy which meant attaching them on with more string, I got tired and left it, then thought, Ill wait until I can get the material...

[Dgraphic911]

Sorry,

I may have misunderstood, if i can make one more small suggestion.

IMO its not just about getting more weights on one side. Their is only one way to do this. You must find a way for the weight to have more motive force on the wheel. Not just form 12 down to six. If you have the weight have force for more than 50% of the wheel then you will be much closer to the wheel always turning. Overweight is not necessarily the answer.

Stop trying to get the weight to go back up. Fucus on it exerting more energy. I don't mean just swinging past 6 oclock. I mean actually pushing past 6 oclock, relative to starting at 12. But it can start anywhere.


I am sorry if you misunderstood my admiration for your trying. keep up the good work. Your sharing helps others and is always appreciated by some.