Marks ring of power ..again

[Mannix]

Hi guys,
as I am concentrating on what i believe to be a working device.. There are a number of knowns..among
many other unknowns
Here are the knowns

No metal core
Gyroscopic effect when running
magnet required to start operation

What I have discovered by searching for Magnetic inertia is
http://www.geocities.com/bibhasde/index.html

have alook ...

This guy is seems to be a  open minded person who also has the courage to admit that our own egos
are what play a large part to prevent us from making new discoverys.

If a magnetic field possesed inertia like qualities, then this "ring of power" could be real

I am building something which is designed specifically to make a rotation magnetic field ...I wonder wether I can duplicate the inertial effects as in the video?

Any Ideas ??

[gast]

Hi mannix,

hmmm ,rotating magnetfield?

Maybe something like this should work? Place the coils around an toroid.
Only an Idea...

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o1---+----|<|----+--|>|---+----|<|----+--|>|---+----|<|----+--|>|---+----|<|----+--|>|---+----|<|----+-o1'
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    ===         ###      ===         ###      ===         ###      ===         ###      ===         ###
    ===         ###      ===         ###      ===         ###      ===         ###      ===         ###
     |           |        |           |        |           |        |           |        |           |
o2---+----|>|----+--|<|---+----|>|----+--|<|---+----|>|----+--|<|---+----|>|----+--|<|---+----|>|----+-o2'

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===  = capacitor
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-|>|- = diode

plug o1 ando1' together, also o2 and o2'


Each unit should be charged by the left unit and should charge its right unit.
The energy should float forem the left cap. to his right coil. This coil charges its right cap. and so on.
If you place this network of units around a toroid and close the loop (o1-o1', o2-o2') you may have an rotating magnetfield
(but only if you put some energy into this circuit and only if the idea is not extreme bulls*** :-) )

Regards, Gast


Edit: Uh, damn. Placing the coils around _the same toroid_ causes an induction in all coils at the same time. Sorry, my failure.

[Freedomfuel]

I am glad to see someone has discovered the website of dissident physist Bibhas De.? He may not be a prophet of free energy but what he says makes more sense than what Tom Bearden says.

The idea of Ghast for making a rotaing magnetic field from static components by using a delay line seems really cool to me.? Of course the electromagnets do not have to be assembled onto the same circular core.? You would obtain a rotating magnetic field if the electromagnets were wound on individual cores arranged in a circle each with the same direction of winding and th same polarity when they are energised.? I have made a post explaining how I believe the Steve Marks device really works with reference to this animated giff:

http://ntint.ntinternals.net/toroid_gen.gif

My post is in the Steve Marks Ring Of Power topic at:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=392.10

I wonder why Marks used an air core for his torroid coil?? I wonder if it is a coincidence that Stan Deyo used air cored coils for his antigravity devices?

[BushWacker]

 For anyone truely interested in trying to understand how and why the HOPE Generator can function and produce more energy than is put into the system please take a look at the links which I am pasting below. Even though it seems it would be quite obvious that there appear to be "Piezo Stacks" IE: stacks of piezo crystals visable in the photo's and video's of Steven Marks "Ring of Power" some have decided to ignore this component and assume they know how Marks device works. I can tell you without very little doubt that they are way off in their assumptions. I am reasonably convinced that "Harmonic Resonance" plays a large part in the initial functioning of Steven Marks device's. I believe that "Phase Conjugation" is also a factor, and that "Back EM Flux" produced by the collapsing of induced EM fields is an additional factor as well. Now if you consider more than what these guys seem to know about anything you may very well be able to understand the certain similarities of which I refered to in relation to Steven Marks "Ring of Power" device. If the gold/brass colored cylinders in the center portion/area of Marks's device are not in fact "Piezo Stacks" then I would appreciate someone telling me what they are? If the device functions in the mannor and by the means that Freedomfuel is leading people to believe then I will personally appoligize. However I assure you that I am not assuming all things and have actually had a great deal of hands on experience with such things rather than merely theorizing everything. I do not assume that I know all the answers to the universe, and anyone who does restricts them self to extremely limited knowledge. All I ask is that people do the math and research and the experiments before drawing rediculous conclusions. Opinions are fine and everyone should have the right to their own opinion. However whether it is based on reality or fantasy can make a big difference in finding the truth. Freedom Fuel does have one thing right and so I feel I should give him/her credit for that. There is a rotating EM field associated with Marks's device. There is also a vortex like effect present. I have never denied this but there is in fact much more to it all than is being presumed by some. I would like to see someone here besides myself produce working alternative energy devices. That is afterall why I agreed to join this forum in the first place. Please take a look at the few links which I am pasting below for anyone who wants to understand how harmonic resonance plays any part in electrical engineering and/or physics. Anyone who has read any considerable information about Tesla should know but as long as our educators continue to teach half truths and refuse to recognize the major flaws in Maxwellean theory there is going to be a lot of confusion even among some of the best engineers.

Best Regards All,

Jim
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Concerning over-unity
and ZPE related ... GIF file, uses Tesla's theory of resonant frequencies
http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/publish/article_1756.shtml

Resonance
http://www.umanitoba.ca/faculties/arts/linguistics/russell/138/sec4/resonanc.htm

Higher order harmonic resonance of electrons with electromagnetic propagation
http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0032-1028/13/11/004

Wave propagation perpendicular to the magnetic field
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/plasma/lectures/node86.html

Fundamental and Harmonics
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/waves/funhar.html
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/oscdr2.html#c5

Studies of electron heating and multiply charged ion production in an electron cyclotron resonance plasma
http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0032-1028/18/2/001

Understanding Harmonics
http://www.powerdesigners.com/InfoWeb/design_center/Design_Tips/Harmonics/Harmonics.shtm

Power Factor Correction and Harmonic Resonance: A Volatile Mix
http://www.ecmweb.com/powerquality/electric_power_factor_correction_3/

[Mica Busch]

Most facinating.

I recently viewed a documentary on ZPE and such, and I believe it was Newman (?) that stated that after searching for how magnets got current to run in certain directions, he stumbled upon a book about gyroscopic physics. He mentioned that he immediately saw the corelation between magnetic fields and gyroscopic action. Certain forces were acting at 90 degree angles, and that there was no reactive force as long as movement was parallel. He stated that this must mean that a Magnetic field is composed of gyroscopic particles! This starts to explain why magnetic field 'lines' must 'cut across' or intersect perpendicular to a conductor in order to 'create' a current.

I think that by joining this knowlege of gyroscopic motion of magnetic particles combined with our understanding of the 3-space vectors may just give us the clues to link it all together. We have always been thinking of magnets as North and South, and others such as Bearden tell us to look at the 'spin component' and the gradient of the magnets - perhaps this is what he meant. A different orientation of magnetic gyro particle would begin to explain attraction and repulsion effects; Knowing how things work best to add together effects will greatly help us in any course, who knows how many replications were fouled because of a lack of understanding of the forces at work and thereby using 'common' knowlege to say it would 'work either way'. The simple matter of the direction coils must run, which way magnets should be pointed, how they should move, which might seem ambiguous to most of us, might just make a difference if we understand the basic causality of the forces in play.

I do not claim to be an expert in any of these matters, but I hope that by freely distributing knowlege amongst ourselves we can 'brainstorm' a solution!
SOMETHING out there has to work!