OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like Tesla's 'charge siphoning'

[nul-points]

For example, if we made a cylindrical capacitor consiting of a tube within a tube, not rolled, and magnetized the space it occupies by wrapping a toroidal coil around the two tubes - or make a plate cap with a magentic field perpendiculat to the side of the cap - can we increase our return?

Aspden's view is that (for greatest 'aether-spin' effect) the cap plates should interact with a radial electric field, and apply a magnetic field at right-angles to that - so he definitely supports a cylindrical (ie co-axial) format for the cap

i seem to remember that he proposed a dual cap arrangement with a series inductor between - and although he suggested this should also be co-axial with the caps, i believe his preferred arrangement was to have a cap-inductor-cap setup inline - possibly with perm. mags having poles aligned co-axially also

he suggested that the caps be biased with HT DC, hoping to promote angular displacement of the 'aether' between the cap plates, leading to self-oscillation

i think his intention for power draw was by means of either inductive or resistive load between the caps - if inductive, then the series inductor could be a transformer

sorry - going from memory on these details
[EDIT: actually, having posted, i've a feeling the two caps may have been co-axial with each-other - ie, a multi-layer, concentric arrangement - anyway, all the info is in one of his ESR reports ('Berlin Lecture', perhaps?)]


i've seen some recent experiment reports which describe rotated caps (possibly unpowered externally?), generating anomalous output - but i don't think i've seen the Wilson experiment so far - will Google around


all the best
s.

[Grumpy]

Aspden's view is that (for greatest 'aether-spin' effect) the cap plates should interact with a radial electric field, and apply a magnetic field at right-angles to that - so he definitely supports a cylindrical (ie co-axial) format for the cap

i seem to remember that he proposed a dual cap arrangement with a series inductor between - and although he suggested this should also be co-axial with the caps, i believe his preferred arrangement was to have a cap-inductor-cap setup inline - possibly with perm. mags having poles aligned co-axially also

he suggested that the caps be biased with HT DC, hoping to promote angular displacement of the 'aether' between the cap plates, leading to self-oscillation

i think his intention for power draw was by means of either inductive or resistive load between the caps - if inductive, then the series inductor could be a transformer

sorry - going from memory on these details
[EDIT: actually, having posted, i've a feeling the two caps may have been co-axial with each-other - ie, a multi-layer, concentric arrangement - anyway, all the info is in one of his ESR reports ('Berlin Lecture', perhaps?)]


i've seen some recent experiment reports which describe rotated caps (possibly unpowered externally?), generating anomalous output - but i don't think i've seen the Wilson experiment so far - will Google around


all the best
s.

Not self oscillation in this one - that would be like the Hazelton Device and it purportedly put out some serious power when it was replicated.  Many many watts.  I have tried it twice with no luck.

quick test would be a homemade plate cap and wrap a coil ariound it - DC to the coil and see if there are changes to the cap

[tak22]

@ Grumpy and nul-points

Wow! Double Karma for you both for your last few posts. Great dialog and very useful insights
revealed. I already had a couple capacitor experiments waiting to be tried, and now you've given
me even more to work with. Thank you!

tak

[nul-points]

@ Grumpy and nul-points
Double Karma for you both for your last few posts.

hey tak - back at ya! 

have i missed a new thread about your LG work?

all the best
s.

[nul-points]

@all

i have a couple of tests lined up:-

first - repeat tests using the original 2-stage circuit - this time with PC switching control - measuring the circuit performance with a 2-channel PC scope

the object of this test is to check the validity of the textbook position on capacitor charging (which claims the energy used by the work which has to be done in charging the capacitor has the same value as the final energy which gets stored)

the indications from testing with the 1-stage circuit suggested that the charging energy dissipated was not limited to be the same value as the final energy stored on the capacitor


second - run the test proposed by Poynt99: ie. allow the switched charge transfer to continue until both input & output capacitor have the same terminal voltage, noting that final voltage
(and, additionally, i'll attempt to get a measure of the total dissipated energy)


i'm intending to use a capacitor value of 4700uF for i/p & o/p caps in these tests - i'm hoping this value will give a reasonable compromise between being able to measure total dissipation for the duration of the test and maximising the ratio of transferred energy to that needed for the switching circuitry

more later

all the best
s.