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The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)

Started by pauldude000, April 09, 2008, 08:35:14 PM

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forest

Quote from: Grumpy on July 31, 2008, 01:42:22 PM
Anyone ever seen a waveform like this? 

This is from Ossie's magnet motor - Bedini-ish type.

I have seen similar (a little sweeter) from a Newman motor.





Can you light neon on output ? Does output has a tendency to light only one neon terminal like DC , but mesured could be only low voltage which is not able to light neon ? This is characteristic of my coil.

wattsup

@Grumpy

Read your posted reply and of course, I could not let this slide. I think you owe me an apology.

I consider your attack as unfounded and that it belittles what I would consider valid concerns. Should I have expected anything less. My mistake to have hoped otherwise.

If you read my post with an open mind, you would have understood my quandary and would have abstained from your very creative insult. But just for the record, don't ever imply again that I am "trying to avoid a build". My record speaks for itself.

As for this now famous iron delay coil, let' see.........

Wound the bifilar coil with 24 awg, wound the iron coil, set the coil at least two feet away. As I expected at low frequencies, you just see a square wave. Big deal. No delay present, so I increased the frequency and all through the frequencies no delay. Hmmmmmmmm.

The photos shown are at the MAXIMUM of my FG which is 2,323,xxx mhz. The scope time/div was set at its fastest which is 50nS and the volts/div at 5 volts. You can't get any faster then this on my equipement which I will state again is a 2mhz FG and a 60mhz scope. Yes I tried all the other ranges also and no way there is a delay.

Both ch1 and ch2 are identical, no delay. I tried this with and without the iron coil. No difference. Tried many frequencies. Nada. Even tried with a nice transitor and pulsed dc instead of directly with the FG. Nothing. No delay. The simple law, path of least resistance alone, killed the delay coil theory from day one.

Or geez, maybe we will see some delay if the frequency is in the Giga range.

Oh, I am sure you will notice the very nice coil to coil coupling going on. Just pulse one coil and check with the scope on the other unconnected coil. Almost 1:1 coupling.

Although I do have great respect for your particular ability of always having the right bit of information on hand, I do draw the line at mutual respect on this board. Craps, we're supposed to be on the same team. At least that's what I would have thought.


Hoppy

Quote from: Grumpy on July 31, 2008, 01:42:22 PM
Anyone ever seen a waveform like this? 

This is from Ossie's magnet motor - Bedini-ish type.

I have seen similar (a little sweeter) from a Newman motor.






Grumpy

This is pure radiant created by a reed switch in the base line of a power transistor, switched by passing rotor magnets. Nothing difficult here except minimising the burn on the reed contacts by careful positioning.

I would say that this is the direction we should be looking. I'm currently applying this idea to my Bedini SG motors.

Hoppy

Grumpy

Inductance of each of the wires that makes up the bifilar:

742.7 micro H
745   micro H

Capacitance between each of these two coils:
3227 pico Farad - which surprised me - I thought it would be lower

Resistance of each coil is 11 ohms.

Resistance of iron wire at full length of about 2 feet or so is 1 ohm.

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Wattsup,

I'll have to go back and read my response to see what you are talking about.

First question on your coil - what is it's resonant frequency? As in the resonant freq of one or each of the coils that makes up the bifilar.

You pulse at resonance only - not a sweep - and at least 0 to 20 volts - not -10 to +10.
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Grumpy

Quote from: Hoppy on July 31, 2008, 02:46:38 PM

Grumpy

This is pure radiant created by a reed switch in the base line of a power transistor, switched by passing rotor magnets. Nothing difficult here except minimising the burn on the reed contacts by careful positioning.

I would say that this is the direction we should be looking. I'm currently applying this idea to my Bedini SG motors.

Hoppy


Yep.  Same for a Newman motor - have to ask a friend about Muller Motors.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards