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The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)

Started by pauldude000, April 09, 2008, 08:35:14 PM

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sparks

  @Pauldude


    Somethings are better remaining buried?  Secrets or alluding to secrets tend to push the paranoia level up a notch.  How can one think clearly if he believes he pocesses knowlege no one else has the ability to understand?
Have faith in the ability of a child to learn.
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Quote from: sparks on May 23, 2008, 08:55:11 AM
  @Pauldude


    Somethings are better remaining buried?  Secrets or alluding to secrets tend to push the paranoia level up a notch.  How can one think clearly if he believes he pocesses knowlege no one else has the ability to understand?
Have faith in the ability of a child to learn.

That truly sounds good on paper, but in the entire span of humanity on earth, we can see that such is truly not so.

The simple fact is that handing a child matches, teaches the child not to play with matches. Why? The child burns his fingers.

Now, matches are a fine and good thing, and are useful. Now consider if what you are handing the child is not matches, say a loaded .45 magnum. Maybe a more accurate consideration is a hand grenade......

Some things truly ARE better unknown, as the knowing gains nothing to the child which is learning, except his probable death. Even a hand grenade would appear as a toy to someone whom does not understand what it is, until the pin is pulled and there is no turning back.

Death is not a learning experience, except in maybe the final sense.

Even with discerning adults accidents happen, and in a case where the most experienced of us here knowingly and willingly allow run-away tpus, already a possible red button saying bluntly "Do Not Push", which gets pushed accidentally quite often, why SHOULD I provide a flashing red button marked "Danger, Do Not Even Sneeze"?

Not all the things that have been buried have been from greed, desire to control information, or from maliciousness. I am not trying to be arrogant or "intellectually superior", or any such thing. Just responsible, to you, to others, and to myself.


Paul Andrulis
Finding truth can be compared to panning for gold. It generally entails sifting a huge amount of material for each nugget found. Then checking each nugget found for valuable metal or fool's gold.

pauldude000

@Loner

Good points.

Some of the nastiest stuff I have seen in my minds eye will not be replicated accidentally. (Too much pulsing current or voltage or fancy non-obvious windings necessary etc to modify the field in particular ways... )

Some of the stuff replicable with what we are dealing I will warn about. You probably know about most or all of it already, just may not have applied to this particular situation. Remember the strengths of the fields we are dealing with when thinking of these things.

Ultrasonics:

Pain generation is but one of many REAL possibilities. The frequency range which are so-called ultra-sonics (above normal hearing frequency of 20 or so khz but still considerable as low frequency) Think of all the uses for ultrasonics in the medical and industrial fields (let alone the militaristic applications), and the dangers should be easily understood.  Cleaning, ultrasound, kidneystone and other calcium deposit removal, material removal or carving in various substances, disintigration of solid materials..........

High Intensity RF Fields:

Induction Smelting, Railgun, X-Ray production (from arcs in vacuum contacting metal), ION formation, Ozone production, Iron content of the human body.......

Above is all mild stuff.

Intense Density High Speed Rotating Magnetic Field:

This is where the stuff that really scares me is located. Dont get me wrong, sheer speculation from my minds eye.

EMP's, Wormholes, Anti-gravity or gravity anomaly formation, Wholesale DNA and other long chain molecule destruction in localized areas, SuperInductance (consider superconductance)..... I could literally go on and on and on and on.

Just speculating about what the field should do with all sorts of unobvious winding possibilities gave me the willies, especially when specially designed to USE the voltage ramps. (IE the "Why does a runaway have to be a runaway?" question, followed with "Just how MUCH energy is available?", along with "How would the coil need to be wound?" )


Now, some of the stuff in this last may well seem ridiculous. I hope so. I really do. I would be glad to be wrong.

I can give a few absolute warnings:

1. Shy away from natural substance resonance frequencies. They are destructive in nature. (Your bones are not much different from any other calcium deposit. Hint, hint Otto, pain is a bad thing in your fingers from field interaction.) 

2. Shy away from trying to use extremely high amperage or voltage for pulsing. Any voltage above 1kv or  any pulse amperage above 20 amps is non-realistic for building a TPU to begin with. (SM obviously wasn't doing either. This does away with X-Ray problem, and many of the potentially instantaneously fatal stuff.)

Many of the potentially fatal things will at least be slow, painful, or cumulative, concerning the rest of the mild stuff for the incautious.

Your TPU has a naturally resonant frequency. If you hit it dead on with any real power, you will NOT control it, no matter what you do.

Protective circuitry is a joke, that is unless you can clamp it in under a gigasecond.

Your voltage/amperage/etc.. controls, just how fast do you think they react? Low to mid millisecond range? Your pulses are in the micro to nano-second range. How many ramps (meltdowns) occur before the sensors even know something is even wrong?

Take for instance the sensing device. Say you find one that can react in 25ns! FAST! Cool! Now, it has to activate another power switching device to shut down the system. this may well be another 8-25ns or more off time. Your fastest response time, circuit wise, is then 50ns at best. (most available devices are MUCH slower).

Now, say you are pulsing with a square wave that the total edge length at the top of the wave (the part that matters) is 100ns. Your response has to have half of the waves top to react. If your pulse happens in the last quarter of the wavetop, the event has already happened before the circuitry could react and DO anything.

Basically, try NOT to have a meltdown first, because a deadman switch is relied upon by dead men.

Paul Andrulis
Finding truth can be compared to panning for gold. It generally entails sifting a huge amount of material for each nugget found. Then checking each nugget found for valuable metal or fool's gold.

wattsup

@pauldude000

Thanks for that perspective and the warning. While I was reading this, I made a parallel between such reactions and the mountains and mountains of literature available on the big bang theory. All those volumes to try and explain what happened in the first milli-seconds of the initial event. Alot of s**t can happen in one second.

But then I think of the billions of electronic circuits running at this moment on Earth. All the coils, frequencies, pulses, waves, in billions of types of devices running every second of every day on Earth. Then I ask myself why is it that with all these interactions happening at the same time, all the potential crossing of fields, coils windings, impulses, etc., etc., why don't we hear of an electronic apparatus blowing up more often. I mean if you look at the probabilities, it would be a miracle that none of these have generated a black hole of some sort or a major explosion. But we do not see major events  happen. Granted a cell phone can cook your ear drum or fry your prostate, living near high tension lines is not great and there are other things to careful with in our day to day usage of our modern devices.

Also I feel we all think what is being done hear is unique and one in a billion in the combinations of pulses, fields, etc., but I would guess that where we are is also close to childs play compared to all the experimentation required to develop the first black and white TV. How did they manage to make the first yoke like otto is using. How did they do all the variable testing to come up with a particular design that works. Tubes, how many years was required to make the first tube, the first xray, the first microwave. Also I would be curious if there is anything from Tesla that would specifically warn against certain avenues of development besides standing next to a humongous generator as its output is being connected to the grid, or discharging very high voltage capacitors.

I do agree that people have to be careful that the device they are running is not the primitive equivalent to a magnetron. Some would have to consider doing what I call a "hamburger test", where you would take three patties, two placed left and right of the device on open plates and one placed left or right but with a metal cover over it. Run the device but leave the room for x minutes, then go back and see if the open plate burgers are starting to cook compared to the one that is covered. I'm just joking with that but it does give you some reason to worry. lol

I remember I tested ottos ECD with 100,000 volts, but minimal amps and within a minute my stomach started to have cramps that I never had. So I stopped it right there and never put 100kv on it again.

I would recommend to you guys to find a broken microwave oven and use the cooking chamber to run the devices. Sounds crazy but until you know its safe, let's not be sorry. Happy cooking.

sparks

     Guess so paul.  Just keep the curriculum on track.  It's in my signature sir.
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