Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations

[resonanceman]

As I think I have mentioned, I have been thrashing about looking for some of the missing elements that will add to my ideas about how to extract power from this generator.

IMHO We will NEVER get anywhere as long as we are still trying to use this as a battery.

The trouble is, we are still trying to raise the power through galvanic means just to get started.

I think Luc gotoluc has got the idea we need. Please look at his whole (2 page) thread:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4124.0.html

and watch the very clear videos.

Today he posted his newest video. In this video he includes all the elements we have been using and which are inherent in just the NS generator as it is.

I will let you watch it before I go on. I asked him for a drawing of today's circuit, just to be sure.

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One of the things that have been bothering me lately is that NS used iron and copper. He did not use zinc plated iron. He even said soft iron. This only gives 0.14vdc, which is very low voltage.

I knew we were going down a different road from the beginning on this point, but it didn't matter at first. I needed to get my hands on this coil to begin to understand it. I am happy with how much I have learned so far, but when I couldn't see the spark forming from the spark gap I set up on one of my coils, I just didn't know where to move next.

OK

Have a look and see if you don't see some clues we can use.

jeanna

Jeanna

If you  havn't  seen it yet here is  a  site that has  quite a bit of information

The  guy with this  web site seems to  collect information .......It is  clear that he  doesn't have first hand information  on all this  stuff

What  may  be  directly  related  to  your post  ..........chapter  5  page 4  shows a  Bedini   motor ......it  uses a bifilar  coil.
Page  5  explains  that the   rotor  is helpful  but not  required , The  coil  may be  made to self  oscillate.


gary

[jeanna]

Gary,
Did I miss the link? I don't know what site you are referring to??

@Storre

So if this can happen with water maybe the abrupt shut off of electricity can produce the same effect and open the door to absorb the electrical potential around it.

Yes. (People have shown this.)

Now, one of the most interresting times I had this winter was when Koen opened a thread called "wild and crazy caduceus coil" - or something like that. I think in half baked.

I saw immediately that the caduceus  is a NS generator. It is a double headed snake with 2 fangs at each head.     While discussing this I had to explain to those who had never built one, that

1- the coil as wound from top to bottom is wound one way but
2- if you follow the path from the other end the coil wraps the opposite way.

So, if you create a spark gap between the ends of the 10's, for instance, the current will oscillate naturally.

I created a hair's breath spark gap between 2 wires on my coil made on a pipe. This pipe behaved differently in that the South pole was opposite all the others and also even though the voltage did decline over time, it did it less than the others. I don't know if this is why.

I have no way to quantify these observations and I only mentioned them in passing, just in case someone else wanted to pick up on it. No one ever did. OK.

I also was never able to see a spark. It is very possible that the spark was there and was too small and short, but again I cannot show it.

The other oddment I have seen and will now go repeat, is that if I strike the wires together or maybe one wire to the core, the meter will show an increase in voltage until I stop striking. (very much like what luc is doing in his videos.)

This now makes sense because luc is striking a magnet and the iron wire and the core both become magnetized. etc.

see?

What luc did yesterday is he verified  in his set up what I saw in mine. He later said the transformer doesn't need to be a toroid. so, here we are. We have all the elements.

BTW, at the end of the second page of luc's thread, in response to my request for the circuit he drew out the one without the capacitor. It is the one that looks like what we have, (not the first drawing ).

I am inclined to get a transformer that is rated 120 to 3 volts and use a pair of AA's to repeat luc's thing. In order to do this, I hope a flashlight light bulb will do. I might skip that and try with my 0.5v NS generator too.

But for a few hours today, I think I need to be in my garden.

jeanna

[resonanceman]

Gary,
Did I miss the link? I don't know what site you are referring to??

Oppps    Sorry 

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/

chapter  5  pages  4 and 5


gary

[storre]

Just a quick report on my progress (or lack of) :-)

I added 13 meters to my coil which almost reaches

.701V
0mA

It's 26M of 2.1mm winding with copper covered in very tight cotton tubing and zinc coated iron bare and wound very tight.

I'm testing with one probe on iron and the other on copper with the other ends left open. Will try burying it see if it makes a difference.

I will try to hook up the reed switch again but I suspect, like with the 13M coil, it will not be enough amps to create the electromagnet. Not sure how big these things have to get before they will produce enough to create the electromagnet or if needs a capacitor inline to build up the charge and release it in bursts. Thrapp did mention a capacitor in his interview online here.

Anyone here have any ideas on the capacitor values best to try for low power like this?

[Pirate88179]

Storre:

I used a 5.5v .22F supercap and it works great!  I actually had better results with it on the electrode set-up but it can charge up in a short time and light an led by itself for almost 2 hours.  I found some 5F caps I want to get.  They are fun to play around with.  These will replace batteries (supercaps) very shortly in my opinion.

Bill