Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations

[resonanceman]

The skeptics win if they stop you from voicing your thoughts. We that matter, are not concerned with skeptics so please enlighten us with your thoughts

Storre

I have shared  quite a few ideas and theorys here in the past.
That does not mean I  will share all my ideas and theorys here.

Once an idea  is  shot down  by the skeptics for  whatever reason they  keep  siting  their  victory  as proof that such a thing is impossible . One example  of  this is  a  "rule " that I have read  here  quite a few times .    All permanent  magnet  motors  end up  demagnetizing  the magnets.   On this  site this is taken as  gospel ..........it is pure  BS  but it is skeptical  BS  so  it is not challenged . Maybe  some  magnets  get demagnetized  but only  if they are  being  worked to hard .



My ideas on  how  the  stubblfield   coil might  work  cover  quite  few  theorys.
It  would take hours of  my time to  write up .
I  am just not  willing to  invest  that kind of time  when I can't  prove any of it.
I  will  build  and test   parts of it  as I am able.
Until I am ready  I  will share no more.


gary

[resonanceman]

@Gary,
Do you think the reason I never got any reading from my longest secondary is because I wrapped it on a plastic tube and not wooded? It fit very close to the primary. I was always amazed to get nothing at all; I remember  I stopped even taking measurements, it seemed so odd. The guy on youtube from the Murray university also said he got nothing from his secondary.

Jeanna

I think  the wood  probably  had several  functions .    Plastic  could  be used if the  other  things the wood  was also doing  was accounted for. 
I  would think that  you probably didn't  get anything  from  your secondary  because   you  didn't have enough  AC in the primary  .


Your  ideas  about  using  a capacitor  to make it resonate is interesting .........but I  don't  remember anything  self powering and self resonating.
Now ..... if  a double  coil was built  with a small  coil   with the solonoid switch and a large coil that  resonated  at the same frequency  they  would tend to  reinforce  themselves.   
The  switch  would last much longer if it  was running  on  low  power .         
Both  coils would  provide the magnetic flux to  move the switch contacts .


gary

[jeanna]

I  would think that  you probably didn't  get anything  from  your secondary  because   you  didn't have enough  AC in the primary  .

Probably you are right.

And, as I now recall, that plastic secondary kept the primary from getting moist. I had to disturb the coil's place in the ground to get water under the tube of the secondary. Hmm, I wonder how close I may have been.

I did have one whose secondary worked. It was about the same number of turns as the total turns if you count both metals, which at the time I didn't think you did. So, it acted as a filter/transformer.

I wound it right on top of the primary winds without a separator layer - or maybe there is a piece of paper tape or silk, but there was no short because it was green varnished mag wire. (still is)

Your  ideas  about  using  a capacitor  to make it resonate is interesting .........but I  don't  remember anything  self powering and self resonating.

I always read that this self resonated. I got that from the way NS made his remarks. I have to dig up the patent right now, so I won't attempt to quote him. It is that I always thought this is what he meant. much to Joe's chagrin.

I once described it to Hans, early on, and he indicated that he thought so too. Hans is the one who told me the metal globe could be a capacitor.

My problem being a newby to electronics, was I didn't know what to set up and where. I have Ian to thank for that. I described this to him one day and he pointed out my mistake in capacitors. So, in a way, he also thought it worked that way too. well, at least I took it to mean that.

I will have a new meter next week and I should be able to test all my coils with this new cap-as-switch.

thank you.

jeanna

[resonanceman]

Probably you are right.

And, as I now recall, that plastic secondary kept the primary from getting moist. I had to disturb the coil's place in the ground to get water under the tube of the secondary. Hmm, I wonder how close I may have been.

I did have one whose secondary worked. It was about the same number of turns as the total turns if you count both metals, which at the time I didn't think you did. So, it acted as a filter/transformer.

I wound it right on top of the primary winds without a separator layer - or maybe there is a piece of paper tape or silk, but there was no short because it was green varnished mag wire. (still is)


I always read that this self resonated. I got that from the way NS made his remarks. I have to dig up the patent right now, so I won't attempt to quote him. It is that I always thought this is what he meant. much to Joe's chagrin.

I once described it to Hans, early on, and he indicated that he thought so too. Hans is the one who told me the metal globe could be a capacitor.

My problem being a newby to electronics, was I didn't know what to set up and where. I have Ian to thank for that. I described this to him one day and he pointed out my mistake in capacitors. So, in a way, he also thought it worked that way too. well, at least I took it to mean that.

I will have a new meter next week and I should be able to test all my coils with this new cap-as-switch.

thank you.

jeanna

Jeanna

I hope that  you get  a coil resonatiing .   it  would  fill in alot of blanks about  what  stubblefield was  doing 


gary

[Michelinho]

Hi all,

The Stubblefield cell outdoor has dropped to 0.085v due to excessive rain and cold weather. I moved it to a dryer place with a monitor coax running all the way indoor, much more fun to take measures. I'll try to take pictures soon for that one.

Meanwhile I have wound another one with the control coil (pictured below) and will set it up in the basement in the sump pump hole (always dry) on a ground pipe that I will drive a couple of feet down. That should get me about 8 feet under the ground level outdoors. As the pictures show, I finally got my analog Simpson meter. 

I am winding another one based on the TPU core style. The core is made of steel straps and weight 5 lbs and I will alternate copper and black iron wires in successive rows. (pictured below) I will use that one for tests indoor. Then it will be time to get back to the alternator and Newman motor as I have received the rectifier bridges and copper pipes for the slip rings on the motor.

Take care all,

Michel