Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations

[resonanceman]

Just  thought  I  would put  an idea out there and   see  if anyone else   has any  ideas  on it . 


here  is  a URL  for a Radiant  energy collector .

http://www.mondovista.com/meyers/

Figure 8  about 2/3  of the way  down is a simplified  drawing of  the basic collector .

I was wondering   about replacing the  magnet / coil   set up  on each end   with  something like  an earth  battery .
The  core would act as the  magnet .....

Figure 4  is the  original  rectifier / amplifier .   ......     the coil  part may  be  practical  today .....but the rectifier is  an early
version of  a  mercury vapor light . .......  according  to  what I  read on the web these  lamps may have as much  as several pounds of mercury  in them ...... probably not  very practical  to use today .   

I  was thinking of  using a   coil .......  with a  secondary  with  lots of windings ........
The  idea  is   to  boost the  voltage  enough  to   overcome the voltage  drop  in  a modern  diode

Come to think about it ......maybe the  right  configuration  would be   to  put   3   bifilar  windings on  one   iron  rod .
( Leave a  space in between the coils .)


Put a nice  big  secondary  on the middle  coil .....  diode bridge optional depending on  how you want to use the power .

It  would be interesting  to see if this  would  work  better on a tower or in the  ground .


gary

[resonanceman]

http://www.mondovista.com/meyers/

I  had not  read the last  part of the   page .

near the bottom   is this about  the " simple " version in figure 8

The tests which I have found successful with the apparatus seen in Figure 8 were carried out by the employment first of horseshoe magnets approximately 4 inches in length, the bar comprising the horseshoe being about one inch square, the zincs being dimensioned proportionately and from this apparatus with the employment of a single intensifier and rectifier, as above stated, I was able to obtain a constant current of 8 volts.

I am not  sure  how the  zinc  adds to the  process . 


Another  little  suprise  that I missed

talking about the  windings in  the  intensifier

Thus it will be seen that alternating currents produced in the wires 6 and 7 will be rectified and delivered in the form of a direct current through the line wires 9 and 10, and I find by experiment that the wires 6 and 7 should be of iron, preferably soft, and may of course be insulated, the other wiring not specified as iron being of copper or other suitable material.

Today  pretty much all wiring is  copper ....here he is  specifying  iron  wire for a good share of the  device . 

It seems to me that iron  is a better connection to magnetic  fields or radiant  energy . 


gary

[jeanna]

Gary

Come to think about it ......maybe the  right  configuration  would be   to  put   3   bifilar  windings on  one   iron  rod .
( Leave a  space in between the coils .)

like a coil gun?

I have been thinking about this a lot.

I even have one (didn't work well on the second one) NS battery with 3 secondary's on it. It has the main one (scramble wound 200 winds) and one small one  around each extending wire. one on the fe6 one on the cu5. The small ones are very small, only 3 rows of 20 winds on each . I call this one #3. It is in the ground now.  btw, the sec's are made with radio shack green mag wire.

As a secondary these coils aren't getting anything from just being around the operating NS coil body1. But if I test with a dmm between the sec wire and either the 5fe or the 6cu, I see an amount of voltage equal to the best voltage the coil ever produced.

After hurting my fingers on this and one more coil I switched to 24 gauge wire. That may be why I haven't seen the effect again.

I have some more 18 gauge wire (like this on #3) and I may just make another just to see if I get more of the same effects. I will change the thickness of the core bolt1.

Judging by the tpu concepts and coil gun Plus adding the fact that I can collect the same voltsNamps from one coil simultaneously using 2 [ or more caps] in parallel, makes me want to pursue this more.



Back to your idea, Where will you connect the 12 wires?

thank you,

jeanna

[resonanceman]

Gary

Come to think about it ......maybe the  right  configuration  would be   to  put   3   bifilar  windings on  one   iron  rod .
( Leave a  space in between the coils .)

like a coil gun?

I have been thinking about this a lot.

I even have one (didn't work well on the second one) NS battery with 3 secondary's on it. It has the main one (scramble wound 200 winds) and one small one  around each extending wire. one on the fe6 one on the cu5. The small ones are very small, only 3 rows of 20 winds on each . I call this one #3. It is in the ground now.  btw, the sec's are made with radio shack green mag wire.

As a secondary these coils aren't getting anything from just being around the operating NS coil body1. But if I test with a dmm between the sec wire and either the 5fe or the 6cu, I see an amount of voltage equal to the best voltage the coil ever produced.

After hurting my fingers on this and one more coil I switched to 24 gauge wire. That may be why I haven't seen the effect again.

I have some more 18 gauge wire (like this on #3) and I may just make another just to see if I get more of the same effects. I will change the thickness of the core bolt1.

Judging by the tpu concepts and coil gun Plus adding the fact that I can collect the same voltsNamps from one coil simultaneously using 2 [ or more caps] in parallel, makes me want to pursue this more.



Back to your idea, Where will you connect the 12 wires?

thank you,

jeanna

Jeanna   

I  overspent on a few things last month so  I  don't  have any  extra  for testing this idea  right away .   


I am not  sure  if  it is like a coil gun or  not ......I  didn't   look into the coil gun  stuff .


If   you have a little time    ......and  you  are willing  you may be able to test it with little or no   expense .

I would have to build   2 more coils  and  maybe rebuild  my first  coil before I could  do any testing .

If   you have  a few coils  on a shelf there   you have most of what  would  be needed .


What   would be needed  is  3 coils  of  similar  construction ........one of them  should have  secondary .

I  would  tape  or  tie   the 3 coils to  a non  conductive  support  ....such as a broom stick or   piece of lumber .

I  am not  sure  how far apart   the coils should be . ...... I  am thinking that  more  distance may  be better ......but   at  this point   just  varifying  the basics  is  enough ...we don't need   an ideal set up .


The    copper  winding  of all  3 coils  should  be connected .....     same  with the iron  windings of all 3 coils .

I am thinking  it would be best to  connect these wires  with  the  same  kind of wire .......so  copper to  copper  iron to iron .


This   is all that is  required for  basic testing .

If  it is  going to work  like  a radiant   energy  absorber    you  should  be able to take   some  readings  .......  they  should  be  close to  the  combined  readings for  all 3 coils     (  3    5s and 3  6s in paralell    )

The   readings  should  be highest   when    the     coils are  lined up north and south .


The  the  secondary in the  center  coil  should read  higher  than with just one coil.


gary 

[resonanceman]

like a coil gun?

I have been thinking about this a lot.

I even have one (didn't work well on the second one) NS battery with 3 secondary's on it. It has the main one (scramble wound 200 winds) and one small one  around each extending wire. one on the fe6 one on the cu5. The small ones are very small, only 3 rows of 20 winds on each . I call this one #3. It is in the ground now.  btw, the sec's are made with radio shack green mag wire.

As a secondary these coils aren't getting anything from just being around the operating NS coil body1. But if I test with a dmm between the sec wire and either the 5fe or the 6cu, I see an amount of voltage equal to the best voltage the coil ever produced.

After hurting my fingers on this and one more coil I switched to 24 gauge wire. That may be why I haven't seen the effect again.

I have some more 18 gauge wire (like this on #3) and I may just make another just to see if I get more of the same effects. I will change the thickness of the core bolt1.

Judging by the tpu concepts and coil gun Plus adding the fact that I can collect the same voltsNamps from one coil simultaneously using 2 [ or more caps] in parallel, makes me want to pursue this more.



Back to your idea, Where will you connect the 12 wires?

thank you,

jeanna

Jeanna   

The  second part of testing ......assuming   the first  part looks  promising .  is   elavating   the  3 coils as much as possable and adding the  wires  to ground  with a cap in  series
The wires are  58 and 59  in fig  8       also  37 and 38 in fig  1

I wouldn't suggest a super cap .......as far as I know they can't  handle  much  voltage ...   I don't think the  size of the cap is  very important . 

I   don't  understand  it ...... but  every  accumulator   plan that I have seen  has a  cap in  a  wire  going to  ground ......and  they all state that   higher is better for the collector .

I  am thinking   that the  wires to ground  should be connected  with the    5s and 6s .......

remember   it should be as high as practical .......  and    aligned  with  north and  south . 

If  it is   going to work as  I hope ......The  readings   should be available  from  the   top of the caps  near the  ground   stakes.     hopefully  the  voltage  will go up  as   the  coils are  elavated .

Hopefully  higher  voltage   on  the 5s and 6s  will  raise the   power in the  secondary .




The only  thing  left to test  would be to see  how   it does in the  ground
I  would  assume that if  you  used  2 coils  that  have insulated windings  they  would  still  work   together ........up to a point .


I am    outlining this  just in case  you or someone else wants to  take the time to  try to test the  idea ....  I  have no  expectations ...... I  only  want   you to test this idea if it is what  YOU  want to do . 


gary