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Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations

Started by Pirate88179, April 09, 2008, 09:43:54 PM

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storre

I don't think it matters if the windings are going up or down, just that the current in the iron AND the copper are traveling in the same direction when the switch is closed. This way the spins don't cancel each other out. I think in the last drawing I did, the left example would cause the spins to cancel each other out but by just connecting one end of the reed switch to the opposite end of the bifiler, they copper one iron would spin in the same direction.

The switch would remain closed until the field saturates and then that would cause the switch to open and repeat etc.

NS is just stretching and winding the 2 electrodes of a galvanic cell so that it's a self generating electromagnet and then using the electromagnet to make and break the cell so it creates a pulsing action.

Normally this would corrode one of the metals but NS says this is not the case in this battery. I suppose it's not because the electrons flow in one direction but then spring(?) back when the reed switch opens the circuit.

All speculation until I can get a N.C. reed switch to test it with :)

Pirate88179

@ All:

I may be incorrect but I have a feeling that the reed switch should be attached between the core and either 5 or 6, depending on the polarity of that particular coil.  There is so much more power there to be able to close the switch as opposed to what we have on just the wires.  I think this is at least worth some consideration.  Connecting to the core should not reverse the rotation of the field, at least, as far as I can see.  (Key word here is should)

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Pirate88179

@ All:

In the other topic, Storre just pointed out to me that the link I posted here for the cotton insulated wire might have a problem with the wire.  It says: Tinned and waxed copper wire.  Plus, it is stranded.  This might not work on our coils.  The tinning might be ok, and the stranded might even help, but the wax?  Crap!  I am glad he noticed it.  I should have read all the specs more carefully.  Sorry all.

Bill

***EDIT***
Of course, maybe in Stubblefield's day the wire was tinned and waxed also?
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

storre

Quote from: Pirate88179 on May 14, 2008, 04:14:30 PM
@ All:

I may be incorrect but I have a feeling that the reed switch should be attached between the core and either 5 or 6, depending on the polarity of that particular coil.  There is so much more power there to be able to close the switch as opposed to what we have on just the wires.  I think this is at least worth some consideration.  Connecting to the core should not reverse the rotation of the field, at least, as far as I can see.  (Key word here is should)

Bill

Hi Bill!

What do you mean by connect one end of the reed switch to the core? If you are referring to the soft metal core of the primary, I don't think that would work but I think I'm misunderstanding you.

storre

Quote from: Pirate88179 on May 14, 2008, 04:22:46 PM
@ All:

In the other topic, Storre just pointed out to me that the link I posted here for the cotton insulated wire might have a problem with the wire.  It says: Tinned and waxed copper wire.  Plus, it is stranded.  This might not work on our coils.  The tinning might be ok, and the stranded might even help, but the wax?  Crap!  I am glad he noticed it.  I should have read all the specs more carefully.  Sorry all.

Bill

***EDIT***
Of course, maybe in Stubblefield's day the wire was tinned and waxed also?

Also depending on the size of this primary, it might get warm enough to melt the wax. I'm going to stick with dry cotton or my preference which is silk. I found it cheap enough at that US link and they have cotton also. I want to eliminate as many variables as possible and stick to the original patent as much as possible. Once I get some results I think the next step is to scale it up to get some more useable power.

I think I will rename this the NS Twisted Battery because that is how I'm seeing it more and more as I visualize it. Just unwind the 2 wires and you have a simple battery. Coil the electrodes and you have an electromagnet. Use this electromagnet to turn itself on and off and you have a self generating electromagnet which is what I think he calls it in the patent.