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Overunity Machines Forum



New proof and blueprints on how to properly sheild magnets

Started by seekingknowledge, April 13, 2008, 06:39:52 AM

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seekingknowledge

Quote from: MrMag on April 15, 2008, 09:55:39 PM
So, that's it??

I saw this thread when it first opened a couple of days ago. I've just got back and expected to be reading a few pages to catch up.
What a disappointment. I might try something but all I have are flat and round neos. no cubes.

Sorry mate i found the video and to my understanding this was a way of getting past the sticky point so i posted it, even tho im a little skeptical myself i was hoping for a few more posative responces but i guess until one of us has a go at sheilding the magnets there is always gunna be skeptics.

NobleWolf

Quote from: NerzhDishual on April 15, 2008, 02:29:10 PM

50.8 mm x 50.8 mm x 25.4 mm =  2" x 2" * 1" = 4 cubic feeet

Now, according to the vid n?2, this guy is using a
4" x 2" x 1/2" = 4 cubic feeet Neo magnet.


I think that a 4 cubic feet neo can lift a truck. Those magnets are 4 cubic INCHES, not feet!.

Low-Q

Quote from: Honk on April 14, 2008, 10:23:02 AM
The problem when trying a motor of this type is the lack of continously thrust forward.
Between each magnet passage there is an area of no thrust. This is where the motor
will find equilibrium, no matter what. In a true and really real working motor there is always a
force thrusting forward, even when loaded hard or stalled. When you stall the motor and release it,
the rotor must immediately start to spin on its own. Powerful stall torque is absolutely crusial.
The strength of the stall torque vs the maximum free spinning rpm at no load determines
how much power can harvested from a generator connected to the shaft.
Yes, but still the sum of thrust and nothing, is still thrust. I believe the case is more that the thrust is cancelled by an equal counter thrust after the area of no thrust. Well, not perfectly correct. The thrust or force will over a given distance provide the amount of energy required to run a motor. So the greatest thrust at one side can be greater than the greatest thrust one the other side, but the difference is over how long distance the average thrust is distributed on each side. That's why the magnets allways will find equilibrium. Thrust or force isn't energy alone without the distance. Say we have an average trust of 10kg over a distance of 1 meter, this is the same energy as 20kg thrust over a distance of 0,5 meters

The realization of thrust or force is often not being connected with a given distance the force is distributed over - which in turn is the most common misapprehension when speaking of provided energy. Probably one of the explanations why there is nothing more than failed magnet-motor projects out there.

Br.

Vidar

NerzhDishual


@NobleWolf

QuoteThose magnets are 4 cubic INCHES, not feet!.

Yes, you are right.
Last night, I suddenly woke up thinking about it (almost no kidding)!
As a f' French I was only taught about millimeter, centimeter, meter..etc..
Sorry, sometimes my tongue is slipping (and even sleeping).  :-*

Best
Nolite mittere margaritas ante porcos.

Cap-Z-ro


Our farm tractor had an opening in the front where you could insert a crank to start it.

It always struck me how the flywheel seemed to be imbalanced...it would turn very hard until it past a certain point, where it would speed up with such force that if you were not careful the crank would  also make a very violent rotation.

Would a weight placed on a rotor at the correct location be enough to take a magnet motor past the sticky point...and with torque ?

Regards...