Roll on the 20th June

[Rusty_Springs]

Hi Ladies!

I just wanted to chime into this bitch slap fight again with a slightly different angle, as I noticed none of the Archer Haters responded to my lil' post a couple pages back.

First, to A. Quinn:

Can you please stop with the cursing/foaming at the mouth thing now? You've convinced enough people that you are a complete narcissistic megalomaniac nutcase now that I think you are "safe"...you can amp it down now. It really is just way to over-the-top and I've seen that you can write gooder and stuff

Now, on to BinaryBoy, The Other Doc Brown, The Legend of Zelda and the rest of the Math-o-matics Funky Bunch:

I get it. I understand that you feel that you are helping these people, but I gotta tell you that your method is backwards, at best. By attacking their Current Jeebus, you are kind of validating them/him (I know...I KNOW...just work with me here) and thus, you sail into the harbor on a Leaky Failboat...which is, oddly enough, the message you are trying to deliver here.

These guys are NOT physicists, for better or worse, so your logic DOESN'T MAKE SENSE They are doers. Dreamers. Tinkers. You damned books don't mean...jack crap here....unless its an expos? of some shady energy thing....but more on the confirmation bias problem here in a bit.

In fact, the ONLY useful thing anyone has said or linked to on the "Nay!" side is the *very* interesting Museum of Unworkable Devices. I think every single person building, or contemplating building this thing should visit that website. It is here: http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm. You should probably go ahead and look at this link right now in another window as you finish the rest of this...

You ALSO need to acknowledge, on BOTH SIDES here (but moreso on the "Go Team Archer!" side) that there is a LOT of "confirmation bias" going on around here, and not a whole lot of regular old Common Effin' Sense.

None of the youTube videos show a working...anything. Not even close. There is a lot of "now, if I could just.." or "well see, my thingee snapped..." or "I'm gonna do the next step soon, but as you can see..."...

But the problem is, no, WE CANNOT.

Sayitwi'menaw: "We haven't seen anything yet."

PLEASE, stop saying it works, or it will work, etc. ONLY Archer Quinn can make this claim. Well, I *guess* anyone could, but certainly NOT based on youtube vids of things that don't run

Now, this is not to say we won't, because, quite frankly, I don't know. As far as I know, "Archer Quinn" could be a complete loon, or a damned genius pretending to be a complete loon.

He definitely has balls tho.

So yeah guys, to quote one of my fav movie lines...

"Let's not start suckin' each others' dicks just yet, OK?"

Now...in all fairness: Whether or not "known science" has the definitive answer to the question of the probability that this thing will work or not may (or may not) be up for...debate...(Well...for half the crew here, the debate is moot)...

But ALL SIDES can certainly meet at this point: What science might not prove/disprove...HISTORY certainly seems to be leaning strongly in the "against" column.

And for the haters: You wanna know why these "poor, confused, deluded (but oddly, mechanically gifted) fools" seem to follow this guy...outside of, of course, their own bias?

It appears that he speaks to their dreams...and hasn't seemed to AT ALL make ANY ATTEMPT WHATSOEVER at capital gains from THIS group of people for this thing.

It is my understanding that in this...scene...the general SOP is to promise these sort of things, make some sort of video and then declare patent intent, or try to sell plans or some key part, etc.

So, outside of the realm of physics as you know it, this guys seems to offer a quasi-credibility (within the scope of this particular subculture) that appeals to the these people's dreams/hopes/beliefs.

And the detracting haters with their evil "math" and corporate-shill "physics" and "Laws" and "Axioms" and whatnot...well these guys are just DreamRapers (at this point).

Like I said, I know you are trying to help them (and I commend you on this) but I think this is a lesson that all of us need to learn for ourselves...either way.

Ya dig?

Hi All
This is the best statement so far and you can't help those who don't want help so I will sit back and get out of this Archer Mass-Debate.
Take Care All
Graham

[Dusty]

The suspense is killing me, I wish I'd hurry up and finish this thing.  This update video just shows the extension arms ready for install, not really worth watching, but I think it's fun to show progress.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0123uvAs2I

Thanks, Dusty

[b0rg13]

The suspense is killing me, I wish I'd hurry up and finish this thing.  This update video just shows the extension arms ready for install, not really worth watching, but I think it's fun to show progress.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0123uvAs2I

Thanks, Dusty

Great stuff Dusty keep on it!.

[MrKai]

Hi All
This is the best statement so far and you can't help those who don't want help so I will sit back and get out of this Archer Mass-Debate.
Take Care All
Graham

Hey um...aren't you the guy that claimed some number of pages back to know that AQ's thing *won't* work, but *your* Patent Pending Bambleweeny-57 Submeson Enginerator (or whatever) would?

I may be mistaken, but I'm almost sure I spotted this earlier... 

[MrKai]

The suspense is killing me, I wish I'd hurry up and finish this thing.  This update video just shows the extension arms ready for install, not really worth watching, but I think it's fun to show progress.

Hi dusty. It is neat to see how you are modding this thing to get more go out of it. I assume that you don't consider yourself a scientist tho, yes?

You really shouldn't keep "helping" the thing work in your videos...it will or it will not

Don't set yourself up like that w/ confirmation bias, touching it as it spins, "knowing" that it is "almost there".

Well do, for your own personal motivation and whatnot...but don't *film* those parts