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Overunity Machines Forum



Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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purepower

@sigmaX

Well said...

@sm0ky2

It this Archer in another alias, because your understanding of mathematics and physics is about the same. You, my friend, understand nothing of dimensional analysis.

You state: "Magnetic fields are not constrained by a time variant, time drops out of the equation and the variable is Distance. The resulting acceleration is directly dependent upon the mass portion of the equation to derrive the time of travel, and thus the final graviational acceleration." Sorry, but no it does not. Can we think of another force that is not time dependent? Oh yes, gravity, contact, force, friction force, tension, and every other force out there has the units kg*m/(s^2), EVERY FORCE, time dependent or not. What you are stating is Force=f(x) and not Force=f(t), but the units of force remain the same. This is sort of like saying velocity changes as a function of how far a race car is from the starting line and not how long ago it left the starting line. But the dimensions of velocity remain m/s or km/hr in either case. This is dimensional analysis, something you do not grasp and has proven your ill fated logic false. Again, nice attempt.

And your nutcracker, bad example. In that case you have a load (squeezing hand) not acting on the body (nut) so the lever distances makes a great impact. On the lever in our discussion, the load (gravitational force) is always acting on the body (weights). The Archurian example does not prove the leverage either as there is more going on. As I stated earlier, by having weights at the end you are effectively increasing angular momentum without changing the angular velocity. And I never said momentum was not a contributer, but it most certainly will not allow the device to function on its own either. Listen to what I am saying and think before you speak, you will save me a lot of time from having to repost the same things and save yourself the shame of being corrected. If you still dont understand something, dont be afraid to ask, but see if you can figure it out from what I have already said.

Leverage proof (from an earlier post, this time with a pic so you might be able to wrap your mind around it a bit easier):

L=length of arms from mass center
x=distance from mass center to fulcrum
m=mass
y=extension from end of rods

With masses at end of arms (L)
Moment (or torque/leverage)= m*(L+x) - m*(L-x) = 2mx

With masses at end of extensions (L+y)
Moment (or torque/leverage)= m*(L+x+y) - m*(L-x+y) = 2mx

As you can see, adding the extension gives no benefit to total torque. All that does matter is total mass (2m) and distance from mass center to fulcrum (x). Do you understand now?


purepower

Oh no. According to Archer I have lost the world championship skateboarding competition. Guess Ill stick with engineering...

OU-812

An interesting observation if you go back and re-read the last few pages.

The posters skeptical of the wheel have been trying to keep the discussion on track and discuss the wheel.  They had initially bashed Archer as a mad-man but have since moved on to discussing the thread topic which is the wheel.  Posting questions, alternative ideas, etc.

The 'Archurians' cannot focus on the wheel topic and insist on calling names and flinging excremental zingers.

Why can you guys (the Archurians) not discuss the wheel and physics behind it rather than post nothing but insults?

Why am I here?  Because I am all for FE/OU and believe someday someone will find it.  I truly think Archer believes he has found it and my opinion is that he just not have the patience to explain his ideas thoroughly enough for the rest to understand.  It seems he has tried but for some reason cannot convey what he really wants to explain and gets frustrated and hurls insults and vulger language.  Do I believe he has the answer?  I don't know, but I continue to read this thread to see the progress/discussion.

exxcomm0n

Gaddamn work!

I missed my edit timeout.

Anyway..........

@ legendre

Hmmmmm....member since Aug 2006 and 59 posts.

Well, you have better longevity here than me, I'll grant you that. But is the content of your posts always in the same vein?

I mean, posting to discredit an idea, rather than propose one, or <gasp> show your own?

Have you posted any observances, discoveries, experiments, anything but invective?

You have given arguments as to why you think these things are scams, and brought up salient points to consider, but I have yet to see a "proof" of the disproving concepts. Could you please come back when you have something that evinces anything more than PEBCAK? (Problem exists between chair and keyboard)

Gratzi sir!
Your cooperation is appreciated. ;)


@ all

Why don't we take these invention ideas one at a time? Archer's time table was pretty durn fast (too fast for me anyway) for latching on to his concepts, but that doesn't mean I have to march to his drum either.

We have a lot of "almost' and "not quite yet" confirmations. Let's investigate them to the point of a definitive answer of yes, or no.
Oh! Please show your work and you can go to recess 10 minutes early! ;)


P.S. What did I do today?

Why, I'm glad you asked!
Cleaned up after another basement flood (they just don't make them like they used to. and the wardrobe for the day is plastic bags on feet and not tin foil hat on head. I'm in a basement, and should be safe. :) ), tweaked an idea I've had and proved for an unattended pool skimmer (I hate chasing crap with one on the weekends!),  designed a new 10 gigabit network topology for an area engineering firm using  AOE SAN data dump with LDAP authentication, and contemplated why a member from 2006 would have so few posts, yet create a considerable percentage of them in relation to debunking this one post (just curious ;) ).

Oh, and figured out a way to have those pesky weights on the end of the rods not have a dog leg attachment to the rod(Well, actually just refined it a bit).
There's another poster here working on the same idea  he had independent of me, and with MUCH more progress I'm sure).

Sad, that I fritter away time in a place like this then, eh?

@ OU-812

You have good points mostly sir. I will endeavor to follow most of them, but I value getting your hand dirty and trying more than talking sometimes.

If my comments be seen as disparaging to any, so be it.
People might learn in the future to ignore them. :D
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

PwrDream

O boy! O boy! O boy!   16 days and counting!!!! It feels like I'm counting down the days to Christmas!   I can't wait till June 20th.... I wonder what the world will be like on June 21st.....

Of course, I'm one of the idiots that cant interperate what Archer is trying to teach here... So I'll have to be one of the many among the mass population of earth that will have to wait for someone else to replicate his device and make instructions that a mind like mine can understand.....

...I really... really hope that the June 20th deadline doesn't disappoint.... my fingers are crossed for you Archer....

Until then, I'll keep dreaming....

PwrDream