Roll on the 20th June

[queue]

Hi queue
The information you give is great and I can beleave what you say about magnetic power loss, was it leaking into your iso's?

Graham

Thanks Rusty

i did make a mistake in my previous post .. it was my video three i was referring to ..
in that array there was no ferrite only magnets so the leak was not from isoferrite.

That was the array were my rotor was able to climb counterclockwise from 6 to about 12 over the top to about the 10 oclock but hung there unable to get past the wall ..

That same array going clockwise .. could climb from 10 to 12 over the top then gaining momentum
easily break the wall at about the 4 o'clock position.. 

Really a mystery .. i am pretty convinced that the array was loosing strength . as to how the big wand restored the array back to it's
previous strength level . .also a mystery.

Maybe i will make a test to try and replicate what happened .. if i'm correct i believe magnets can loose potential if they do work in repulsion mode and not if they are in attraction mode .. but don't quote me on that ..
i would have to check if thats in fact an accurate statement.

Have a good weekend all
C ya
Queue

[Rusty_Springs]

Hmm, makes me wonder if AQs mags will be completly useless when he gets back from vaca...

But someone was using mags to split water? Interesting, you have a link by chance? If not, no worries, I don't really see the usefulness of this (as it is obviously Underunity), I'm just curious...

Did your trigate mags seem to loose their strength over time?

-PurePower

Hi Power
I found out about the rods and permanent magnets splitting water by googling magnetic current I think it was.
I never looked into my Trigate lossing power but now you mention it there were times in my experiments that for no real reason the way it acted was different and it did seem at those times it had lost power looking back now, I would also say they get there power back quickly by placing them in a new magnetic field like queue did with his wond.
Take Care Power
Graham

[Rusty_Springs]

Thanks Rusty

i did make a mistake in my previous post .. it was my video three i was referring to ..
in that array there was no ferrite only magnets so the leak was not from isoferrite.

That was the array were my rotor was able to climb counterclockwise from 6 to about 12 over the top to about the 10 oclock but hung there unable to get past the wall ..

That same array going clockwise .. could climb from 10 to 12 over the top then gaining momentum
easily break the wall at about the 4 o'clock position.. 

Really a mystery .. i am pretty convinced that the array was loosing strength . as to how the big wand restored the array back to it's
previous strength level . .also a mystery.

Maybe i will make a test to try and replicate what happened .. if i'm correct i believe magnets can loose potential if they do work in repulsion mode and not if they are in attraction mode .. but don't quote me on that ..
i would have to check if thats in fact an accurate statement.

Have a good weekend all
C ya
Queue

Hi Queue
I have to go along with you on that Queue, I would think magnets loose energy in repel and replace it in attract, thats why I think a system that changes from repel to attract may work.
Take Care Queue
Graham

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<snip>
in that array there was no ferrite only magnets so the leak was not from isoferrite.
<snip>
Really a mystery .. i am pretty convinced that the array was loosing strength . as to how the big wand restored the array back to it's
previous strength level . .also a mystery.
Maybe i will make a test to try and replicate what happened .. if i'm correct i believe magnets can loose potential if they do work in repulsion mode and not if they are in attraction mode .. but don't quote me on that ..
i would have to check if thats in fact an accurate statement.
Have a good weekend all
C ya
Queue

Dude,

Take this for what you think it's worth, cause it's a mishmash of theorem and conjecture, but it's my take on things.

1st off, let me ask a question:

Why does a horseshoe magnet last longer if you use a "keeper" (metal plate to bridge the 2 poles)?

I noticed what you describe too when I left the dirt devil to wait for new mags and lots of work.

The 2 sided tape would let loose of some arrays and attach them to others still held. When I took an array off that did not have an attracted loose array AND was still between to others, I noticed that the strength seemed to be less.

After stripping them off and joining them N/S they seemed to rejuvenate after a while.

What if the "alignment of domains" or aligning of all the atoms is just forming a conduit for magnetic force to escape the pole ends of the magnet and aligning them like pole to like pole starts the atoms picking and choosing how they are pushed and effectively "rippling" the conduit so the only magnetic force still able to escape has a much smaller aperture to do so?

EDIT

When they are joined N/S the conduit straightens and "refreshes" the mag to it's prior state.

I'm doing some experiments now that might shed a bit of light on this as to how the field changes with array length.

But as always, consider the source.

Enjoy the weekend!



P.S. I found something  here that might help:

http://www.tpub.com/neets/book1/chapter1/1j.htm

" A magnet may also become weakened from loss of flux. Thus when storing magnets, one should always try to avoid excess leakage of magnetic flux. A horseshoe magnet should always be stored with a keeper, a soft iron bar used to join the magnetic poles. By using the keeper while the magnet is being stored, the magnetic flux will continuously circulate through the magnet and not leak off into space."

[Rusty_Springs]

Hi Queue
I'm pretty sure there was two reasons AQ got onto magnetic current, the first was Larry talking about metal rods between magnets, he experimented with that which showed him the magnetic flux moves along the rod.
Then you talked about iso and thats what lead him to the key, this all doesn't really matter but it does show this thread has been helping AQ along and with out it he would still be on his gravity/mag wheel, which ofcause didn't work thats why he had to look else where.
Take Care Queue
Graham