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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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The Eskimo Quinn

actually i do believe rusty springs did say the gate key would not work, backpeddle?? now that the vid is being loaded?
My PROOF THAT DEMOCRACY IS DEAD AND THAT WE MUST ATTACK AND KILL THE NAZIS IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, THE U.S, aUSTRALIAN AND BRITSIH GOVERNMENTS ARE THE OPPOSITION PARTIES TO THE ORIGINAL INVADING GOVERNMENTS, DEMOCRACY DIDN'T WORK, BOTH MAINSTREAM PARTIES ARE NAZIS, DEATH TO THE NAZIS, DEATH TO ALL SYMPATHIZERS AND SUPPORTERS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39c-kpgDY58&feature=related

capthook

Quote from: therealrasta on July 30, 2008, 02:11:23 AM
Not exactly sure why? Perhaps you can figure that out.. Just it was a noticed anomaly that occurs when it is at rest.

The effect would be present at all times.  It just happend to be noticed by queue when he went back to the device several days later.

Further info by queue (or anyone else wanting to investigate) is needed to see:

1) how great the effect is
   don't know if a % will be offered.  A lbs. pull test of before and after of each array stack would be ideal
2) time variable of the effect
3) is there a max limit to the effect.  20% etc is the maximum re-orientation?


The Eskimo Quinn

Quote from: Rusty_Springs on July 19, 2008, 06:42:34 PM
Hi Gwhy
I know magnetic current works and the further you want to run the magnetic flux the more powerfull magnets you need, I did try looping the magnetic wire to increase the current like they do with electric coils but to me it didn't seem to improve anything, so for distance you need bigger magnets and thicker magnetic wire and this gives you a problem of more force needed to seperate the connectors and as I have said what worries me and always did about this kind of system is the force needed to seperate and bring back together the connectors.
Take Care Gwhy
Graham

Why would you be worried? After all you just said it has been done before by remote, funny your worries were no dismissed by this knowledge you must have had when you said that?

Quote from: Rusty_Springs on July 19, 2008, 05:02:15 PM
Hi queue
I would think to make anything work with isotropic ferrite it would depend on the force needed to switch the switch on and off, if the force needed isn't that great then you can set this up to work like any electricmotor using isotropic ferrite as the stator and a neo bar magnet as the rotor, you would have two switches one would make the stator poles north south the other would revease it and make them south north, the switches would change at the half way point of the isotropic ferrite stator's so like and electric motor you would attract in and repel out.
I must give Archer this one, I have talked about magnetic current years ago but never with isotropic ferrite and I think thats the key, the idea is not new but using isotropic ferrite for it is new.
Take Care queue
Graham
PS: I was thinking of using soft iron to do the same thing as I just discribed but I thought the force needed to change the circiut was to great, maybe I was wrong and the force isn't to great time will tell.

Funny I thought you said it was nothing new? Having something that has no field suddenly having a field with poles is not steel, so where had you see this before? When you just said above this is new. I am sure you can tell all the people reading what materials this was previously done with. They may wish to try it.

Quote from: Rusty_Springs on July 19, 2008, 03:18:06 AM
Hi All
Good video queue and it changes nothing about what I said and that was it takes energy to turn the switch on and off.
First the energy to seperate the two pieces of metal and then take them far enough from each other so you don't get attract back before you want it and then energy to put them back together to reset the system, you maybe able to cut the energy needed down but you still need it and because your system doesn't replace energy lost it will at some point stop.
You still have a wall, maybe a weaker one only test will tell that but its still a force needed to keep the system moving.
Take Care All
Graham

Strange? Again with the two piece of metal from someone who already knew about field transfers, and as the system is using an external banl of magnets that do no form part of the wheel movement what energy is being used? Magnets do not wear out from use, that is a myth, just like those shitty ferros around those 30 year old fridge motors still running to this day.

Quote from: Rusty_Springs on July 18, 2008, 08:24:10 PM
Hi Shakman
I don't think you have been in the magnetic field for long so yes it would seam like something special to you but to me its nothing new, magnetic current has been around for years using iron wire, which I think off the top of my head is called magnetic wire if you want to buy it, don't quote me on that because it has been years since I played with magnetic current but google it and see what you get.
Thats all I'm getting into with this because its pointless pointing out the truth to some, all I will say is nothing new yet again and until I see a working wheel little videos of old concepts wont win me, I pointed out the losses of energy with the switch and as I said any energy lost with a system that don't put energy in will fail because theres no way to get that energy back.
Take Care Shakman
Graham

ahhh yes I knew there was a couple of them, the switch wont work because of the losses? What losses would they be?

But the three in a row absolute you said this could not work, and you are talking about the switch. Read on people and see what a back peddling liar this guy is. Comes to the party when he knows the vid is being posted and goes back to the wheel as what he wants to see each time. Even when each of his ?it wont work? claims is crushed along the way.

Enjoy the history lesson.

Quote from: Rusty_Springs on July 18, 2008, 05:35:47 PM
I saw the vid, yet again a old idea most call it magnetic current some use iron wire to do this and yes the bolt must be touching the magnets current carring metal for it to be a magnet.
Neos close to weaker magnets will lift them but because you a weaking the magnetic flux by having it run through the metel to the neo it will not reach out as much and it has to touch the weaker magnet to join the flux between the Neo and weaker magnet, also its not a supermagnet in fact its alot weaker then the neos you was using.

Quote from: Rusty_Springs on July 18, 2008, 07:12:06 PM
Hi Shakman
I'm not going into it again the last time I proved something as you said I was attacted but I know for a fact how this reacts and it is old, just ask one thing does a switch turn off and on?
If yes then ask yourself how is this turning off and on if its connected to the main magnet all the time which it has to be to keep the magnetic current flowing, if its connected to the repeling side then you have repel comming in just weaker and if its connected to the attracting side then you have attract back only weaker, your not switching the fields your just weakening them like any shield, to switch them you need to disconnect from the main magnet not the roller and to do that takes alot of energy, you try pulling iron of alot of neos, it an't easy, ofcause you can push/pull the iron onto the main magnet with the roller but to do that the iron must be in the rollers magnetic field and this puts drag on the roller taking away any gains you may have had and ofcuase then it also has to be released ready for the next time around so you need more energy to release it.
Oh and I'm over responding to the other crap, thinking people will know I have proved what I needed to and anyone else I don't really give a f what they think.
Take Care Shakman

Quote from: Rusty_Springs on July 18, 2008, 07:25:57 PM
Hi broli
First I'm not a engineer and never was there Archers words not mine, second I explained why it wouldn't work and any engineer would see that, I would think.
If you don't like my message cool don't read it but why you have to attract me for it I have no idea.
Take Care broli
Graham

have a nice day


oh and for those in the know, moving a stationary object is a little harder than pulling a roller running toward it, but school is stilll available to adults and as for a kick out? there is no kick out, it turns off the is no kick out it falls at speed with momentum it has gained.

you lied again got caught out and now want a partridge in a pear tree in the video, and not one request that is not already there by more strength or required. Back to invisible land for you. One shot at redemption and you blew it.
My PROOF THAT DEMOCRACY IS DEAD AND THAT WE MUST ATTACK AND KILL THE NAZIS IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, THE U.S, aUSTRALIAN AND BRITSIH GOVERNMENTS ARE THE OPPOSITION PARTIES TO THE ORIGINAL INVADING GOVERNMENTS, DEMOCRACY DIDN'T WORK, BOTH MAINSTREAM PARTIES ARE NAZIS, DEATH TO THE NAZIS, DEATH TO ALL SYMPATHIZERS AND SUPPORTERS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39c-kpgDY58&feature=related

therealrasta

Quote from: capthook on July 30, 2008, 02:18:01 AM
The effect would be present at all times.  It just happend to be noticed by queue when he went back to the device several days later.

Further info by queue (or anyone else wanting to investigate) is needed to see:

1) how great the effect is
   don't know if a % will be offered.  A lbs. pull test of before and after of each array stack would be ideal
2) time variable of the effect
3) is there a max limit to the effect.  20% etc is the maximum re-orientation?



Perhaps the mags on switch being relatively close to the system will keep it charged...


Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on July 30, 2008, 02:15:37 AM
actually i do believe rusty springs did say the gate key would not work, backpeddle?? now that the vid is being loaded?

Nice vid Archer.. The switch definitely works.

The Eskimo Quinn

evening all, video is up. finished for today. thiose who use other thread with smots etc or other sites, spread the link.
My PROOF THAT DEMOCRACY IS DEAD AND THAT WE MUST ATTACK AND KILL THE NAZIS IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, THE U.S, aUSTRALIAN AND BRITSIH GOVERNMENTS ARE THE OPPOSITION PARTIES TO THE ORIGINAL INVADING GOVERNMENTS, DEMOCRACY DIDN'T WORK, BOTH MAINSTREAM PARTIES ARE NAZIS, DEATH TO THE NAZIS, DEATH TO ALL SYMPATHIZERS AND SUPPORTERS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39c-kpgDY58&feature=related