Roll on the 20th June

[ramset]

Thaelin I don't remember Tinsel Koala changing?
He has always had the same opinion on this
He is one cool guy!!
Chet
PS I could be wrong about both things[was that a penguin?]

[TinselKoala]

    Tinsel:
   Still just as negative as before. Cant remember which handle you used before
but deleted it so it would not be in the data base. This forum lost a lot of messages
along the way.

   Now as to it not working .... Yet.... this is version 4. Ver 1 barely had enough power
to keep rotating. Ver2 did well but had little power as well. Switched to slide track and
gear motor in Ver3 for added weight, did very well. Then started searching for a good
low speed generator. Found that in the wind forums. Ver4 will use that.

   As for your data base of all the failures, I guess that is why you are so negative. That
is why you dont look any farther, no? I have had many failures to date. I simply backed
away and analysed why, and formulated a different approach to the end. That is why I
have reached the point I am now. Doing this kind of thing, you had better get ready for
a bunch of failures. It is no different than sticking a prop on it for the wind, an turbine
on it for hydro, ect ect.

   Now can this be considered OU? Not sure I would want to go there. I am adding in
the force of gravity to the motor actuators.

   No more in this thread now, move to the other one.

thaelin

See, you don't deal with a single one of my points, you just want to berate me for "being negative."

In the first place, you have made statements that "seem" to indicate that your device works, when it only works "in your theory" because you haven't actually built it yet. I don't like this, but it happens a lot on this forum. Personally, I think you should have something that works, before you say that you have something that works.

In the second place, what about the point that gravity cannot be of assistance here, because you have to keep raising up the same weights that are lowering, and the path (at the outer rim of the wheel for lowering, closer to the hub for raising) cannot make any difference to this basic fact of life?

In the third place, your design basically uses the wheel and weights as a coupling between the drive motors (the output) and the generator on the hub (the input). Since you cannot hope for any assistance due to gravity (see above, and many many years of analysis and experimentation with gravity wheels), this is a very inefficient way to couple the motors to the generators, and you won't be able to make it move on its own, beyond the initial spin you give it, either by hand or with a "starting battery".

Now, I'm not against you wasting your time and creative juices on a dead end, if that's what you really want to do with your life. But please, don't imply it will run itself, until you have it actually running itself. That's all I ask.

Put me on your ignore list if you like, but you will not be able to ignore the points I make above.

[Thaelin]

   OK if Tinsel wasn't one of the group that fed on archer Quinn, then I eat some crow there.
I still have yet to see this kind of setup. Thats what a bench is for I guess. Get in and do it.
I have seen one gen head for a wind machine that would get 12v and hold its own against
two twelve watt halogen bulbs just turning by hand. Damn impressive to me. Gives me the
distinct impression that it can be done. So on I go.

thaelin

[JohnGalt_USA]

Yes still Alive, did't drop in for conversations, just dropped in to say merry Christmas, now for those of you in doubt or wondering, you need but do one thing, travel every energy site in the world, and find as many posts as this one has in pages of posts on one machine. No one machine that ever existed including Besslers wheel can claim that which is here in front of you now. If occam himself were here what would he say? That which is most likely correct usually is!

Merry Christmas to all

and I "will" see you all next year

Archer you have not accomplished anything!

You are nothing more than a worthless tool with an internet connection.

Please go back under your rock and stay there!

We all know that you are really just an oil man sent here to distract from the real OU work being done here.

[g4macdad]

Archer you have not accomplished anything!

You are nothing more than a worthless tool with an internet connection.

Please go back under your rock and stay there!

We all know that you are really just an oil man sent here to distract from the real OU work being done here.

So what made you check here?