Roll on the 20th June

[helmut]

Mr. Quiinn, i've seen many of similar claims so far, so,,,,,,,,,,,,,

R o T  F l M a O!

Sorry!

Cheers!
Spinner

@Spinner
The difference between the group that you are belong to,and us  is:

We might read in a book that are not written yet.

but you have the old ones only.

helmut

[b0rg13]

Hello!

I just want to say, everithyng it was said about the Mr. Quinn and June 20th revelation is JUST A SWEET DREAM. Seeing the development so far, it will most probably not come into fruition.

Please, prove me wrong.? I would like to be wrong on that....

Just in case someone is interested, i would like to see you all look at the "Museum of unworkable devices" by Donald Simanek, and as an addition, maybe Hans-Peter Gramatke's site? It would be helpfull if FE begginners would read that first... Skeptics views (the fairest you can find).... Basic physics against perpetual motionists in the most tolerant FE fashion you can find... No kidding.?!

This way we could be spared of "false Newtonian physics", etc.

It's really annoying to listen to the accusations about how Newton was wrong all the way... Mind you, his 'laws' are still the basics descriptions of the nature of our world we're living in.

Regarding the sattelites (natural or artificial), they're there, and  they all operates mostly in the Newtonian manner... And there's a few hundreed years of development... And the alleged 'gravity wheel' has not much in common with the sattelites...

Mr. Quiinn, i've seen many of similar claims so far, so,,,,,,,,,,,,,

R o T  F l M a O!

Sorry!

Cheers!
Spinner

ill keep my fingers crossed for now it all works like we all want it to..

[spinner]

Mr. Quiinn, i've seen many of similar claims so far, so,,,,,,,,,,,,,

R o T  F l M a O!

Sorry!

Cheers!
Spinner

@Spinner
The difference between the group that you are belong to,and us  is:

We might read in a book that are not written yet.

but you have the old ones only.

helmut

Helmut, I'm sorry if you find my post negative or even an insulting one...
(The group i belong to??? Hmm, which one?)

Sincerelly, it's not my intention to debunk any of the claims made here...
The quantity & quality of my posts here should tell you all...

Nevertheless, i'm involved in a 'FE' research long enough to know a few things...
 
Guess what? I'm not going to pollute these threads any more.. Although I'm infested with classsical knowledge, i'm still open to the new ideas.... Silly me?

I wish mr Quinn, you and others all the best with finding the 'real thing'!

Good luck!
Cheers!
Spinner

[oak]

Hi Spinner.  Thank you for attempting to protect us from our own folly.     

You are correct that there have been zillions of attempts to make a gravity wheel work.  And you are of course correct that Mr. Quinn could be an insane guy (or something) leading us down a path to nowhere.

I've looked at the museum of unworkable devices site before, and I agree it is an interesting site.  But what seems potentially different about this wheel than others I recall are:  (1) the relative massiveness of the flywheel in comparison to the moving weights; i.e., the inertia of the flywheel plays an important role, and (2) Archer's hinted description of a mechanism to lift the weights using very little energy (see discussion a few posts above).

We'll know soon whether this works.  In the meantime, I'm having fun with this!  I'm off now.

[sm0ky2]

@ Bad,

what you find doing a search on the internet, is a vague description of a sattellites function.

momentum keeps them in motion, because there is no (or very little) friction in space.
"most of" the boosting efforts are yes to keep the sattellites on the proper trajectory. However, they do require forward propulsion when their velocity nears 'critical', meaning they are soon to fall if they are not sped back up.

The reason they apparently defy gravity is because of :
the centrifugal (outward) force, vs. the gravitational (inward) force. as long as this balance is maintained, it will stay up there. - this is not perpetual, it requires energy to do this.

the "moon"'s orbit is in a much different elliptical pattern, gravity does not pull the moon towards the earth in the same manner as it does to a sattellite. The forces (both inward and outward) change throughout the moon's orbital paths around the earth. moon doesnt follow one path, it follows several paths around the earth  throughout a single "cycle".  its distance from the earth is constantly changing.