new? magnet/gravity motor

[seekingknowledge]

Hi all ive thought simler to this and im glad some of you are trying it cos i dont really have the tools or things to do so, i dont want to be negative but on the right side when the magnet is being pulled up it will get stuck in attraction mode to the external magnet , the magnet would then have to weigh so much to break itself free of the attraction and if it does so weigh that much then it would not lift up in the first place.

You mention using sheilding thats a good idea on the left side tho i think if most the thrust makes the magnet go inwards it will be less upwards, and on the right side when the magnet goes into attraction mode what sheilding material would you use?  sheilding to my knowledge is usally tin or some other metallic meterial and is mainly to use on like poles cos with like poles the magnets have repulsion + attraction from the tin etc so you get a neutral effect but with opposite poles the magnets have attraction + attraction so you will only get attraction, if there are non metallic meterials used for sheilding what are they?

I dont mean to be negative truley i just thought i would point it out please correct me if im wrong i think it is great what you guys are doing and dont let it put you off the idea still has room to build on.

[martinzurix]

this tupe of dewices never could work because there are no energy input .

if one piece of something drop down you need energy to put it up agen .  you need to breake gravitu if you want get weight back with les energy used.  you lose energy not only to move up and down weight but to move horizontaly too .  thus is why this grawity pendelum systems not work. and similar is problem with magnetic permamanet motors you need energy tu put something in magnetic field . maybe only real shelding from one direction , holy grail...

only way to achewe overunity it get energy from our only energy suply sun,  to rezonate on natural frequencies that all around

sore for my horible english

[Spider]

I have build this exact device and it didnt work.
The repulsion of the lower magnet is bigger then the gain of the shifting weights.
Another thing is that if your give it a good spin, the centrifugal forces stop the magnets from shifting, the just stay on the outside.

Greetings Rene

[Low-Q]

i have had this idea for quite a while, and though i haven't read every post made by everyone, i have read 100's of related posts but never saw this idea, and was wondering if anyone else already knows the 'problems' of such a device.  see the attached JPG.

basically, the propeller or wheel spins clockwise.  as shown, at the top of the image, the outer static magnet will pull the cylindrical magnet up the spoke somewhat, while at the same time, at the bottom of the image, the outer static magnet will push the cylindrical magnet up the spoke somewhat; keeping the right side of the propeller/wheel over-weighted.  stainless steel can be used to shield magnetic fields when like poles are coming at each other, or when opposite poles are leaving each other; and gravity adds energy to the right-side over-weighted propeller/wheel, and the lower outside magnet boosts the magnet on the spoke inwards and upwards.

it seems to me that if everything was arranged properly, and any necessary shielding was used properly, the 'magnetic bessler wheel' should work, because there are more forces acting to make the propeller/wheel spin clockwise than the total number of forces that are in opposition.

i don't have the material at this time to try it, but if i did, i would, and i will when i can - but i thought i'd share this in case anyone does have the materials.  just a good chop-stick, a nail, and 2 cylindrical magnets, and 2 bar magnets.

I think you also will figure out how it suppose to go counter clockwise too. There is no force more in one direction than the other direction, so it will not run.

Or simply put: Magnetmotors simply do not work due to the nature that permanent magnets are - yes permanently magnetized. They do work only if the magnetism in them change - and who is doing that? Energy!

Br.

Vidar

[erickdt]

I have build this exact device and it didnt work.
The repulsion of the lower magnet is bigger then the gain of the shifting weights.
Another thing is that if your give it a good spin, the centrifugal forces stop the magnets from shifting, the just stay on the outside.

Greetings Rene

x2. I too built this exact arrangment and it doesn't work.