David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device

[MileHigh]

There are two attached graphic images that help illustrate the phasor concept for a resonant system.

You see the graphic for a voltage and current sine waves that are 90 degrees out of phase.  So those could be the two parameters for a resonant LC oscillator.

In the other graphic you can see how the sine wave is the y-axis "shadow" of the rotating phasor.  By the same token the x-axis "shadow" of the rotating phasor is another sine wave 90 degrees out of phase with the  y-axis sine wave.  So you can see how imagining a rotating vector can describe a resonant system.

The length of the vector represents how much energy is in the resonant system.  The rotational speed of the vector is the resonant frequency.

So, in any resonant system, if there are zero losses, then the phasor just spins and remains steady state.  In the real world there are losses, so as the phasor spins it decreases in length, tracing out a smaller and smaller circle.

When you pump energy into the resonant system, the phasor gets longer in length.  That is always being counteracted by the losses that make the phasor shorter in length.

The only way for the phasor to get longer in length is for you to keep pumping energy in to overcome the losses.  What does not happen is the phasor spontaneously getting longer in length over time.

MileHigh

[Hoppy]

There are two attached graphic images that help illustrate the phasor concept for a resonant system.

You see the graphic for a voltage and current sine waves that are 90 degrees out of phase.  So those could be the two parameters for a resonant LC oscillator.

In the other graphic you can see how the sine wave is the y-axis "shadow" of the rotating phasor.  By the same token the x-axis "shadow" of the rotating phasor is another sine wave 90 degrees out of phase with the  y-axis sine wave.  So you can see how imagining a rotating vector can describe a resonant system.

The length of the vector represents how much energy is in the resonant system.  The rotational speed of the vector is the resonant frequency.

So, in any resonant system, if there are zero losses, then the phasor just spins and remains steady state.  In the real world there are losses, so as the phasor spins it decreases in length, tracing out a smaller and smaller circle.

When you pump energy into the resonant system, the phasor gets longer in length.  That is always being counteracted by the losses that make the phasor shorter in length.

The only way for the phasor to get longer in length is for you to keep pumping energy in to overcome the losses.  What does not happen is the phasor spontaneously getting longer in length over time.

MileHigh

Very well explained and this description and diagrams show how resonance alone cannot be responsible for a device self-running assuming this is even possible.

[Farmhand]

Hidden in PLAIN SIGHT:
Tesla's OWN WORDS:

A.King this is all off topic. But !

I would ask would you please elaborate what your understanding is of the meaning of the last underlined section of the snippet you attached ?

I am fairly sure I know the exact effect he refers to and can locate the description and full explanation from another source.

But I'll wait to see what exactly you are saying you think it actually means in more detail.

You link this stuff and things are implied but you are not saying exactly what your understanding of the text is. I think it pertinent to explain what you think any highlighted sections you present mean as you see it. I know when I link stuff like that I at least try to explain what I think it means. As a point of reference for mutual understanding it's vital in my opinion.

Cheers

P.S. What exactly is it that you are saying is "Hidden in plain sight" ? Please explain.

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[SeaMonkey]

Yes you can bring down a building by ex[c]iting it at it's resonant frequency.

That may have been possible at the turn of the
century but modern buildings are constructed
with extensive damping to eliminate any possible
destructive resonances.

Bridges too.  Especially very long suspension bridges.

By the way:  MileHigh was beat(en) by Ruslan the Siberian
Rocky.  Tenth round TKO.  It was a great fight.

PS: The rudeness in post 2970 on your thread over at the Energetic Forum is the prime reason I dislike that forum as this type of post is allowed to persist on the forum without moderation.

Well said Hoppy!  In fact, it is possible that the
"co-founder/moderator" there encourages such
immature communication.

[Farmhand]

I will need time to locate the actual explanation from Tesla, my reason is I am ill and have a bit of a memory blank but I know it's in one of four documents that he speaks his own words in and explains it well.

Anyway for the time being I have made a sketch to show what I think he is getting at. 

With a standing wave and resonance the potential available for a receiver increases with the distance towards the 1/4 WL.
But with a radiating transmitter the available power for a receiver drops with distance always.

Basically what you and many others have done is point to a section of words from Tesla's writings and claim it says he is getting Over Unity.

Not only is it a misunderstanding, but when it turns out to be shown to be not true or even possible it gives ammunition for people to say Tesla was mad and made wild claims, when in reality he did not even make the claims. In my opinion it's Anti Tesla to do things like that and I for one will speak against it. Too many people putting words into Tesla's mouth that he did not say. That's what I think.

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To explain it further,
At point "O" not far from the Tesla transmitter there is only a little potential to tap.
At point "A" there is more.
At point "B" even more.
And if tuned spot on at the ground plate of the receiver is the maximum available potential to tap.

Current is relevant to potential (voltage) over resistance,
and power is voltage x current.

Energy transferred is a different thing entirely but is limited by the power.

P.S.


Try this below. Thought experiment.

Now take a Hairpin circuit and turn it on it's side tie one side to ground and analyze that. 

EDIT: Umm also make the hairpin about 30 meters long in your mind,..... then make it as long as is the diameter of the planet.




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